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Irishman May 29 2013 06:18 PM

The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701)
 
The concept of updating Franz Joseph's Starfleet Technical Manual and USS Enterprise deck plans is really intriguing, and gets the creative juices flowing.

I've decided to sit down and begin to make a master list of what should be on there.

To my mind, and the reason I started my own thread instead of posting in one of the existing ones, is that it's got to be respective first and foremost of what was on screen. Only when that can't be reasonable known on inferred will I reach out to other sources for data.

We've never seen a definitive and comprehensive TOS Tech Manual! After all these decades. It still does not exist.

That, above all else, just blows my mind. So, here is my first revision of that master list: (I know I'm missing something, so be gentle)

The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701) Mission Log


1. Orthographic projections of the Starship Class Heavy Cruiser (both Pike captaincy and Kirk captaincy)
2. Deck plans of the same (as of Stardate xxxx.xx)
3. Shipboard phaser emplacement (typical)
4. Ground Phaser emplacement
5. Class F Shuttlecraft
6. Type 1 Phaser
7. Type 2 Phaser
8. Log Pad
9. Dispensary (location onboard)
10. Starfleet Communicator
11. Rec Room tray
12. Rec Room plates, bowls, flatware
13. Crew jumpsuits (green, red, and blue, depending on departments)
14. Pike era Laser Pistol
15. Pike era Laser Rifle
16. Pike era communicator
17. Pike era uniforms
18. Atmospheric Isolation Suit
19. Kirk’s Tunic Wrap
20. Starfleet Dress Uniform
21. Vulcan Lyre
22. Medical Tricorder
23. Sciences Tricorder
24. Rec Room shot glasses
25. Rec Room coffee pot
26. Rec Room Food Synthesizer
27. 3D Chessboard
28. 3D Checkerboard
29. Starfleet workout attire
30. Retractable forcefield door
31. SS Valiant Recorder Marker
32. SS Antares orthographs
33. Engineering pistol scanner
34. Engineering Test Ray Generator
35. Surgical Respirator
36. Anabolic Protoplaser
37. Beam Scalpels
38. Medicine Hypodermic
39. Jefferies Tubes
40. Surgical Wound Healer
41. Rigel 12 Residence
42. Dr. Korby’s Android fabricator turntable
43. Tantalus Neural Neutralizer
44. Balok’s warning bouy
45. Fesarius orthographs
46. Balok’s Control Ship orthographs
47. Franz Joseph’s “Ray Gun”
48. Anti-gravity Generator
49. Pressure Chamber
50. Decompression Chamber
51. Biobed
52. Duotronic Computer Core
53. Emergency Transponder
54. Instrument of Obedience
55. Eminian Disruptor pistol
56. Eminian High Councilroom
57. Starbase 11
58. Commodore Stone’s Office
59. Starbase 11 Lounge
60. Starbase 11 Hearing Room
61. Witness Chair with palm scanner
62. White sound Heartbeat Reader
63. Lt. Macgivers Quarters
64. DY-100 orthographs
65. DY-100 interiors
66. Khan’s uniform
67. USS Enterprise Hearing Room
68. Janus 6 Pergium Mining Station
69. K-7 Space Station
70. Pike-era Uniforms (Science tunic, command tunic, medical tunic, engineering tunic)
71. Neural Stimulator
72. Sickbay’s Physiostimulator
73. Klingon warrior uniform
74. Sickbay's Psychotricorder
75. Sickbay’s Sonic Separator
76. Transtator
77. Ultraviolet Satellite
78.

Thoughts, guys and gals?

FormerLurker May 29 2013 07:24 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
Change replicator to synthesizer. It didn't become the replicator until TNG.

Irishman May 29 2013 09:03 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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FormerLurker wrote: (Post 8171899)
Change replicator to synthesizer. It didn't become the replicator until TNG.

Corrected. Also added the Pergium Mining Station, miner's uniforms and K-7 Space Station.

Also, I'm on the fence about how I should honor the work done by the Okudas in TOS-R. I don't agree with some of the creative choices they made with regard to elements we didn't see in the original episodes, but which they added (Gorn ship, space hippy ship). But some of them are inspired (an adaptation of the TAS cargo ship as the Antares in "Charlie X").

Also, this will be also a sort of visual mission log, that gives us an excuse to dig into the people, places, and adventures the Enterprise crew had during their 5 year mission.

Robert Comsol May 29 2013 09:37 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
:techman: And you already provided a list of candidates. I love it. :luvlove:

It would help to divide the list into sections: uniforms, field equipment etc.
Thus everyone who has something to contribute could easier see what's there and what could still be added.

The first item that comes to my mind is the leather Starfleet Tunic Wrap worn by Charlie Evans in "Charlie X".

With the new additions of TOS-R it might be a simple solution to add a TOS-R section. Thus people who can't find something in the TOS section would look up the TOS-R section (and understand it's a new addition and/or alteration of TOS).

I will come back soon, but currently devote my time to the saucer's deck plans as I've fallen behind schedule.

Bob

Irishman May 29 2013 09:43 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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Robert Comsol wrote: (Post 8172685)
:techman: And you already provided a list of candidates. I love it. :luvlove:

It would help to divide the list into sections: uniforms, field equipment etc.
Thus everyone who has something to contribute could easier see what's there and what could still be added.

The first item that comes to my mind is the leather Starfleet Tunic Wrap worn by Charlie Evans in "Charlie X".

With the new additions of TOS-R it might be a simple solution to add a TOS-R section. Thus people who can't find something in the TOS section would look up the TOS-R section (and understand it's a new addition and/or alteration of TOS).

I will come back soon, but currently devote my time to the saucer's deck plans as I've fallen behind schedule.

Bob

Thank you, Robert, for joining the discussion! I will organize the master list into an outline/Table of Contents once I'm sure the list is complete.

Which leads me to this question: How do we pay respect to Franz Joseph's Starfleet Headquarters? It seems too prominent to ignore.

Mysterion May 29 2013 10:36 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
A revised breakdown of the crew complement of the Constitution class starship should be included. I think the listing included in FJ's blueprints could use a bit of re-thinking.

feek61 May 29 2013 11:34 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
What about the bridge stations, control panels and displays? I know only some were included in the original but we certainly have enough information now to complete it.

Irishman May 29 2013 11:36 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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feek61 wrote: (Post 8173249)
What about the bridge stations, control panels and displays? I know only some were included in the original but we certainly have enough information now to complete it.

Agreed! And I think the resources on your forums are a great effort towards that end!

Also, Engineering, sickbay, everywhere that had control panel or display should be featured.

Irishman May 29 2013 11:39 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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Mysterion wrote: (Post 8172922)
A revised breakdown of the crew complement of the Constitution class starship should be included. I think the listing included in FJ's blueprints could use a bit of re-thinking.

Is there an official one?

Also, I think there should be somewhere in the text an in-universe acknowledgement of the "Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development" (the one that explains why all those aliens and planets look so much like us and earth?

As well as the Richter's Scale of Culture.

Irishman May 29 2013 11:40 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
Also, I'd make the Enterprise 1080' feet long.

Solves more problems than it creates.

Mysterion May 29 2013 11:43 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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Irishman wrote: (Post 8173282)
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Mysterion wrote: (Post 8172922)
A revised breakdown of the crew complement of the Constitution class starship should be included. I think the listing included in FJ's blueprints could use a bit of re-thinking.

Is there an official one?

Not that I am aware of, beyond the number of "430" given in various places as the total crew complement. There is the breakdown on FJ's Enterprise blueprint set, and I've seen some other fan-produced listings. But nothing more "official" than that that I've seen.

Anyone else know of any?

Robert Comsol May 30 2013 12:31 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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Irishman wrote: (Post 8172712)
Which leads me to this question: How do we pay respect to Franz Joseph's Starfleet Headquarters? It seems too prominent to ignore.

Or too conjectural to be considered in the first place. :rolleyes:

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Irishman wrote: (Post 8172712)
It's got to be respective first and foremost of what was on screen

The magic words that attracted me to this thread. Given the dissent regarding various issues (e.g. Constitution vs. Enterprise Class) the obvious solution can only be to be screen-accurate, IMHO.
I want to see fans that find fault with such an approach.

Regarding devices we can definitely determine their functions from the actual TOS Information. E.g. ray "gun" is obviously some kind of engineering tool in "Charlie X" and/or some kind of morse code transmitter in "Squire of Gothos".
Unless someone seriously wants to claim that the two guys exiting the Jefferies Tube just returned from the shooting range and DeSalle was actually a Klingon agent who tried to shoot down the Enterprise with this device after he had landed on Gothos. ;)

Everything else is conjectural speculation and open to interpretation and should be listed as such, IMHO.

Bob

P.S. Just because Gene Roddenberry liked the FJ blueprints of the Enterprise, which FJ apparently took as a justification to add "approved by Gene Roddenberry" (that would have been the task of Matt Jefferies...), doesn't make these "official".

The little anecdote told by FJ how Gene Roddenberry picked a room for himself on these blueprints but didn't really understand which room he had picked (...) is clear evidence that Gene Roddenberry didn't really understand what he was looking it (which would be a presupposition for a qualified approval, IMHO).

CorporalCaptain May 30 2013 12:56 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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Robert Comsol wrote: (Post 8175550)
P.S. Just because Gene Roddenberry liked the FJ blueprints of the Enterprise, which FJ apparently took as a justification to add "approved by Gene Roddenberry" (that would have been the task of Matt Jefferies...), doesn't make these "official".

The little anecdote told by FJ how Gene Roddenberry picked a room for himself on these blueprints but didn't really understand which room he had picked (...) is clear evidence that Gene Roddenberry didn't really understand what he was looking it (which would be a presupposition for a qualified approval, IMHO).

The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official. Naturally, that is completely irrelevant to whether fans find them satisfactory.

Irishman May 30 2013 02:28 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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CorporalCaptain wrote: (Post 8175607)
Quote:

Robert Comsol wrote: (Post 8175550)
P.S. Just because Gene Roddenberry liked the FJ blueprints of the Enterprise, which FJ apparently took as a justification to add "approved by Gene Roddenberry" (that would have been the task of Matt Jefferies...), doesn't make these "official".

The little anecdote told by FJ how Gene Roddenberry picked a room for himself on these blueprints but didn't really understand which room he had picked (...) is clear evidence that Gene Roddenberry didn't really understand what he was looking it (which would be a presupposition for a qualified approval, IMHO).

The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official. Naturally, that is completely irrelevant to whether fans find them satisfactory.

There ARE a lot of fully licensed tie-in products out there. That status doesn't, however, validate them as being representative of what viewers of the show watched and fell in love with.

CorporalCaptain May 30 2013 02:30 PM

Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1
 
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Irishman wrote: (Post 8175928)
Quote:

CorporalCaptain wrote: (Post 8175607)
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Robert Comsol wrote: (Post 8175550)
P.S. Just because Gene Roddenberry liked the FJ blueprints of the Enterprise, which FJ apparently took as a justification to add "approved by Gene Roddenberry" (that would have been the task of Matt Jefferies...), doesn't make these "official".

The little anecdote told by FJ how Gene Roddenberry picked a room for himself on these blueprints but didn't really understand which room he had picked (...) is clear evidence that Gene Roddenberry didn't really understand what he was looking it (which would be a presupposition for a qualified approval, IMHO).

The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official. Naturally, that is completely irrelevant to whether fans find them satisfactory.

There ARE a lot of fully licensed tie-in products out there. That status doesn't, however, validate them as being representative of what viewers of the show watched and fell in love with.

Sounds like you completely agree with what I said, then.


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