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I am not Spock May 29 2013 11:33 AM

Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Aspergers?
 
I was just watching 'Hollow Pursuits' (I know, I know, an episode often maligned by fans). Brocolli strikes me as having many of the symptoms of these conditions (not picking, I have Aspergers myself). I wonder if he was written with this in mind, or not.

He kind of reminds me of an anti-Mary Sue character. Like he represents some of us, the viewers, the antisocial geeky, socially awkward types.

Kevman7987 May 29 2013 07:56 PM

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That is probably true. I'm not sure if they ever gave Reg a specific social disorder though, or if they just used him as a "blank slate" to have whichever one fits his role in the episode.

Mojochi May 29 2013 08:28 PM

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social anxiety, self esteem issues, phobias, sure. I wouldn't feel comfortable saying he has a clinical condition though

Salinga May 30 2013 01:21 AM

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I think, the character of Barcley is based on some symptoms of the Schizoid personality disorder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoi...ality_disorder

I am not Spock May 30 2013 11:06 AM

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I found him a breath of fresh air. It showed that everyone in the 24th century is not a perfect Mary Sue, and a bundle of charisma and confidence. Although he is very gifted in his field, obviously.

CorporalCaptain May 30 2013 11:38 AM

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I am not Spock wrote: (Post 8170105)
I was just watching 'Hollow Pursuits' (I know, I know, an episode often maligned by fans).

The irony!

Seriously, it's maligned more than the average episode is maligned? I hadn't noticed. It's not in my top ten or anything, but it's certainly a pretty good episode. And, I got some huge laughs out of it.

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Brocolli strikes me as having many of the symptoms of these conditions (not picking, I have Aspergers myself). I wonder if he was written with this in mind, or not.
I doubt it. It would have been mentioned, if he'd had an untreatable condition. Ergo, if he had any such condition, it was treated, and he's now asymptomatic on the shows, to the best ability of 24th century medicine, if not completely cured.

MacLeod May 30 2013 12:33 PM

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Or perhaps he is like many of us today. Who just lean towards being shy and don't do well in social situations. Yet don't have any disorders.

sonak May 30 2013 08:46 PM

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MacLeod wrote: (Post 8175556)
Or perhaps he is like many of us today. Who just lean towards being shy and don't do well in social situations. Yet don't have any disorders.


what he had seemed to go beyond typical shyness, though. He was openly anxious and uncomfortable in social situations, not merely quiet or withdrawn. I'd say he had SAD. Great character, by the way.

I am not Spock May 30 2013 10:52 PM

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sonak wrote: (Post 8177416)
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MacLeod wrote: (Post 8175556)
Or perhaps he is like many of us today. Who just lean towards being shy and don't do well in social situations. Yet don't have any disorders.


what he had seemed to go beyond typical shyness, though. He was openly anxious and uncomfortable in social situations, not merely quiet or withdrawn. I'd say he had SAD. Great character, by the way.

Yeah. There's more to him than just being shy. I can relate quite a bit to him, and I have Asperger syndrome, except I am not an engineering genius by any means. I don't think he was explicitly written with any particular condition in mind, but he's definitely neurotic, and socially withdrawn.

It was refreshing to see a person in the 24th C, who is not perfect, and suffers from some very real social phobias. I like his character, too

Dick Whitman June 1 2013 01:45 AM

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He was one of my favorite characters too. Seeing Hallow Pursuits again recently I was shocked how badly the other characters treat him. In fact it is the few times we the crew have their own flaws. There treatment of him is unfortunately all too human.

JirinPanthosa June 1 2013 09:59 PM

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Social anxiety disorder, yes. Aspergers, absolutely not.

It's possible in 24th century personality disorders are now just accepted as 'Who the person is' and not categorized disorders.

If humanity has progressed so much, it's probably progressed beyond pathologizing every personality trait which isn't adaptive to the norm, and started just accepting people for who they are.

MacLeod June 1 2013 10:11 PM

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I can certainly empathise with the Character of Barclay, Yes I lean towards being shy, don't do great in social situations etc...

sonak June 1 2013 10:21 PM

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JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 8187046)
Social anxiety disorder, yes. Aspergers, absolutely not.

It's possible in 24th century personality disorders are now just accepted as 'Who the person is' and not categorized disorders.

If humanity has progressed so much, it's probably progressed beyond pathologizing every personality trait which isn't adaptive to the norm, and started just accepting people for who they are.


social anxiety disorder isn't characterized as a disorder because it's different from the norm, it's characterized as such because it significantly disrupts a person's social interactions, and has a negative impact on their life as far as dating, friends, employment, etc.

Introvert is a personality type, but "socially anxious" is not, because the person with SAD often doesn't WANT the anxiety associated with typical social interactions.

MacLeod June 1 2013 10:34 PM

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True most people who are socially anxious don't want to be, but it can be a bit of a vicious cricle. When they try to do something about and it doesn't go right it just fuels their anxeity. But no doubt manypeople who have social anxeity are introverts.

I've heard/read it said we live in an extrovert world, perhaps part of the issue doesn't lie with those who have social anxeity or are introverts, but with the extroverts or the ones that don't suffer from social anxeity who think everyone should do well in social situations.

JRoss June 2 2013 05:45 AM

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Also an Aspie. Don't see him as autistic but SAD for sure.


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