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Warped9 May 27 2013 01:23 AM

Pre TOS cruiser....
 
This is how it starts. I have an idea and I start sketching and eventually (sometimes it can take awhile) there is an "ah ha" moment. Here we go.

I actually worked up something like this before several years ago, but I always thought I could do better. Now I have a good concept I like with what I think is good visual balance in shape and proportions. This was initially based an a MJ preliminary sketch as he worked his way towards the final design for the Enterprise. The sketch in question was a saucer with a cylinder suspended beneath it and two narrow cylinders affixed atop. It was a very basic idea, but I'm trying to flesh it out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps074b34fe.gif

From this I'll work up schematics and then move onto modelling it.


The basic background thinking is that this could be one of two earlier classes for either the Valiant (which was lost at Eminiar 7) or the Republic (referenced in "Courtmartial).

In this concept the nacelles are not affixed directly to the saucer as in MJ's sketch. Rather they are attached to a enlarged impulse section which houses main engineering. The support hull suspended below houses the shuttlecraft facilities as well as most of the support services.


This is something I photoshopped some years ago and gives a general idea as to what I'm working toward.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Farragut2.gif

In any design I approach even as I tried to evolve it with some measure of logic I also try to work at it as if I'm designing a hero ship in order to get the right feel. I try for something that would look good if it had to be onscreen.

Kaiser May 27 2013 02:48 AM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
Looks nice to me :)

Nightowl1701 May 27 2013 03:06 AM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
Works for me. :)

Blip May 27 2013 08:35 PM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
Me too! :)

Warped9 May 28 2013 02:58 AM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
My original concept for pre TOS cruiser from about fifteen or so years ago. I liked it, but now I think it looks a bit too clunky.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d9/PreTOS1.jpg


My Heracles-class star slipper (and variants) from a century or more before the TOS era. Something like this could have been cool instead of reusing the Botany Bay footage as the olf freighter in "The Ultimate Computer."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d9/PreTOS7.jpg


MJ's original sketch that inspired my pre TOS cruiser.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Warped9/de-7.jpg

B.J. May 28 2013 04:47 PM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
I like your sketching style! Looks like you're retaining some antennas from your previous versions, which I like, gives it a distinctive look. Going for a dome instead of a dish this time? Can't remember which camp you're in on that, is it a sensor, deflector, or both? (Or something else entirely?)

Warped9 May 28 2013 05:23 PM

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Quote:

B.J. wrote: (Post 8165764)
Going for a dome instead of a dish this time? Can't remember which camp you're in on that, is it a sensor, deflector, or both? (Or something else entirely?)

It is the deflector/main sensor array. It might not stay as a pure dome as I might play around with it.

publiusr June 2 2013 10:37 PM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
Thanks for doing those ships from The Best of Trek

Belz... June 2 2013 11:28 PM

Re: Pre TOS cruiser....
 
From a completely nerd standpoint, shouldn't the nacelles be further away from the ship ?

Warped9 June 2 2013 11:45 PM

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Belz... wrote: (Post 8192956)
From a completely nerd standpoint, shouldn't the nacelles be further away from the ship ?

Well you are seeing it predominantly from the side. Given that these engines are less powerful and that they would show to be further away when seen in other views I think it's okay. Besides they can look closer than they appear because they're attached to a section extending out from the saucer rather than attached to the support hull.

Also what about a destroyer design where the nacelle attaches right to the dorsal? That's even closer to inhabited areas.


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