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bryce May 23 2013 08:56 AM

Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoiler)
 
I noticed something about the design of Mudd's confiscated ship from Into Darkness...

Here's the profile of the ship from the original version of TOS:

http://s14.postimg.org/cywzrzlj5/Mud...arship_TOS.jpg

And here's the ship's concept art (it was the only profile I could find):

http://s22.postimg.org/6nl5uakap/Mud...o_Darkness.jpg

It's the same profile!!!

Unfortunately, they redesigned the ship for Star Trek: Remastered, into this (kinda lame, toyish looking, imo) design:

http://s9.postimg.org/52hxorfwf/Mudd...Remastered.jpg

I'm guessing that the designer of the ship for STID might have based it on the TOS profile of Mudd's "Aurora" Class J Cargo Ship. Which means that STID ignored ST:R, and uncannonized it in this instance, lol. And people say that Abrams doesn't respect TOS canon! ;)

King Daniel Into Darkness May 23 2013 12:32 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
That's fascinating. I'd never thought of the original blob ship being a inspiration, but it looks like that might have been the case.

And weirdly, when I saw the TOS-R Mudd ship, I thought they had taken inspiration from the 2009 movie with the blue nacelle caps!

Therin of Andor May 23 2013 12:49 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
And they decided it was a K'Normian vessel. K'Normians were a latex-appliance headed humanoid alien designed and described for ST:TMP, but not actually seen onscreen (as far as I've been able to ascertain), only in studio pics. Kinda explains how Harry Mudd's daughter ended up getting Bajoran-esque nose ridges in the "Countdown to Darkness" comic.

CaptainDave1701 May 23 2013 02:49 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
"I noticed something about the design of Mudd's confiscated ship from Into Darkness..."

I am sorry but was this ship identified as Mudd's ship in the film?
I have only seen the film once and perhaps have missed this.

Spike730 May 23 2013 03:44 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
No, the ship was identified as the ship of Mudd's daughter in the tie-in comics.

Quote:

Which means that STID ignored ST:R, and uncannonized it in this instance, lol.
Or maybe they have each their own vessel. ;)

Quote:

Kinda explains how Harry Mudd's daughter ended up getting Bajoran-esque nose ridges in the "Countdown to Darkness" Comic
How? She looks nothing like K'Normians. Wouldn't it be easier to say her mother was Bajoran?

ManOnTheWave May 23 2013 04:12 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
Quote:

CaptainDave1701 wrote: (Post 8140498)
"I noticed something about the design of Mudd's confiscated ship from Into Darkness..."

I am sorry but was this ship identified as Mudd's ship in the film?
I have only seen the film once and perhaps have missed this.


I think they call it "the ship confiscated in the Mudd incident," but I could be misremembering the wording.

Dukhat May 23 2013 04:17 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
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ManOnTheWave wrote: (Post 8140837)
Quote:

CaptainDave1701 wrote: (Post 8140498)
"I noticed something about the design of Mudd's confiscated ship from Into Darkness..."

I am sorry but was this ship identified as Mudd's ship in the film?
I have only seen the film once and perhaps have missed this.


I think they call it "the ship confiscated in the Mudd incident," but I could be misremembering the wording.

I'm pretty sure that was deliberate. That way the audience members who didn't read the comic (which probably would have been almost all of them) might still have attributed the reference to Harry and the episode he was featured in with that blob-of-light ship. I also noticed the similarity.

EJD1984 May 23 2013 04:26 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
Mudd's ship reminds me of an updated Spindrift from Land of the Giants.

Classic Fan May 23 2013 06:46 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
Nice catch. :techman:

I doubt that the STID production crew took the idea from the comic, probably, as stated, quite the opposite. Comics used production art or footage from the film as a base.

Quote:


Unfortunately, they redesigned the ship for Star Trek: Remastered, into this (kinda lame, toyish looking, imo) design:

http://s9.postimg.org/52hxorfwf/Mudd...Remastered.jpg

I'm guessing that the designer of the ship for STID might have based it on the TOS profile of Mudd's "Aurora" Class J Cargo Ship. Which means that STID ignored ST:R, and uncannonized it in this instance, lol. And people say that Abrams doesn't respect TOS canon! ;)
The guys from CBS digital responsible for TOS:R look like they have done a 1:1 scale kitbash to give it that pirate/functional look with that TOS vibe. I liked it when I saw the ep.

However, it looks like Richard Bransons SpaceShipOne has had a love child with the Galieo shuttle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps0c500611.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps9f284a8b.jpg

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http://s9.postimg.org/52hxorfwf/Mudd...Remastered.jpg

Therin of Andor May 24 2013 09:28 AM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
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Spike730 wrote: (Post 8140699)
How? She looks nothing like K'Normians. Wouldn't it be easier to say her mother was Bajoran?

Sure. I'm just suggesting that the artist caught the alien reference, but put his appliances in the wrong place. I think most readers were anticipating Mudd's daughter to be human.

publiusr June 1 2013 08:51 PM

Re: Noticed something about the confiscated ship from STID (mild spoil
 
That was a nice ship. Now there was a Klongon blob in one TOS episode and I wonder if it may have been also used as Mudds ship...


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