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ConRefit79 May 20 2013 07:41 PM

Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
Since Q knows about the myriad of alternate realities, is he tormenting the Alternate Picard and TNG crews as well?

Markonian May 20 2013 08:35 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
Not necessarily. At least in the Dark Mirror timeline Q did not interfere with the Enterprise-D crew.

Also, he never appeared in any of the other Mirror Universe stories, now that I come to think of it.

At least The Eternal Tide confirms there's only one Q Continuum in the multiverse, so there is only one version of each Q.

Christopher May 20 2013 08:44 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
^Sure, there's only one Q, but there's nothing stopping him from crossing timelines if he wants.

F. King Daniel May 20 2013 09:25 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
But weren't there Trelanes for every reality? And in Q-Squared Trelane is a Q (and in fact...

... so surely there should have been at least four versions of Q too?

Christopher May 20 2013 09:35 PM

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^Except the idea of Trelane being a "child" Q was roundly de-canonized when "The Q and the Grey" established that the Q had never procreated before. Not to mention that it was inconsistent with "The Squire of Gothos" all along, since Trelane had much more limited abilities than any Q; he needed technological assistance to do his tricks, and seemed nearly powerless without it.

F. King Daniel May 20 2013 09:38 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
That's beside the point. According to Q-Squared and thus in the context of that story, he is. And surely since there was a Trelane for each timeline, there should be a Q for each too.

ConRefit79 May 20 2013 09:41 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
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Christopher wrote: (Post 8124772)
^Except the idea of Trelane being a "child" Q was roundly de-canonized when "The Q and the Grey" established that the Q had never procreated before. N.

What about the two Q who had a child in True Q?

shanejayell May 20 2013 09:49 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
I think they did it as 'humans' more or less, so that doesn't count. *lol* Or something.

Christopher May 20 2013 09:50 PM

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King Daniel wrote: (Post 8124784)
That's beside the point. According to Q-Squared and thus in the context of that story, he is. And surely since there was a Trelane for each timeline, there should be a Q for each too.

No, it's exactly the point. The point is that you can't assume old books are in the modern novel continuity, because the majority of them have been contradicted by one thing or another. The question was about what Q & A, and thus the modern novelverse, suggested/established about Q and the multiverse. Q Squared is not part of that continuity, because it's been contradicted by canon. So it's not relevant here.


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ConRefit79 wrote: (Post 8124805)
What about the two Q who had a child in True Q?

The real answer is that the producers just forgot or chose to ignore "True Q" (and I can't blame them -- it was a really silly idea). The in-story rationalization is that they had renounced their status as Q and were technically human when they had their child, so it didn't count.

ConRefit79 May 20 2013 09:53 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
So why would he be more interested to Prime Picard & Co and not the others?

F. King Daniel May 20 2013 09:56 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 8124856)
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King Daniel wrote: (Post 8124784)
That's beside the point. According to Q-Squared and thus in the context of that story, he is. And surely since there was a Trelane for each timeline, there should be a Q for each too.

No, it's exactly the point. The point is that you can't assume old books are in the modern novel continuity, because the majority of them have been contradicted by one thing or another. The question was about what Q & A, and thus the modern novelverse, suggested/established about Q and the multiverse. Q Squared is not part of that continuity, because it's been contradicted by canon. So it's not relevant here.

Oh wait, my bad. My brain blipped and I somehow misread the thread title as Q-Squared instead of Q&A.

Christopher May 20 2013 10:18 PM

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ConRefit79 wrote: (Post 8124877)
So why would he be more interested to Prime Picard & Co and not the others?

Like I said, maybe he isn't. Maybe he does visit other timelines, just one at a time.

George Steinbrenner May 21 2013 01:07 AM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
True Q doesn't count, since Amanda Rogers was born as a biological human and she was conceived in the normal human way. So it took awhile for her Qness to assert itself.

As for alternate realities: A counterpart of Q appeared in at least one universe in Q-Squared, so I guess there are individual Q for every universe.

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Stevil2001 May 21 2013 11:30 PM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
He's omnipotent-- can't he visit them all at once?

R. Star May 22 2013 01:18 AM

Re: Q&A Novel Multiverse Question.
 
Heck, he probably created some of those alternate timelines. :p


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