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Procutus May 19 2013 08:29 PM

One particular SPOILER from The Name of the Doctor
 
I'm just curious to see what others here are thinking. After watching the final five minutes again, I'm almost certain he's the ninth incarnation of The Doctor.

Timelord Victorious May 19 2013 08:46 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
I'd say he is the real ninth Doctor, but not the one who ended the war.

Would be better for the character if that was Ecclestone, being forced to make up for what Hurt did and destroying the Timelords and Daleks in the process.

Procutus May 19 2013 08:52 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
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Timelord_Victorious wrote: (Post 8117920)
I'd say he is the real ninth Doctor, but not the one who ended the war.

Would be better for the character if that was Ecclestone, being forced to make up for what Hurt did and destroying the Timelords and Daleks in the process.



I hadn't thought of that, but it sounds good. It's a pity that Eccleston didn't agree to be a part of the November Special, especially if we're right about Hurt being the incarnation just prior to him.

Wereghost May 19 2013 08:53 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
There's a possibility of him being the final incarnation, but I think that the ninth is more likely given Eleven's famiiarity with him. This also fits in, I think, with Ten's statement to Sarah Jane that he's changed half a dozen times (given that she briefly met Five in The Five Doctors).

Another question concerns what he's going to be called in the anniversary special. Maybe he'll be from a point prior to whenever he discarded the name of the Doctor.

Worf2DS9 May 19 2013 09:03 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
I don't want him to be "the real" 9th Doctor because that would be just a big eff-u to what we've known since 2005. I'd rather he be Doctor 8.5 than 9. I'd rather him be something else entirely.

Gov Kodos May 19 2013 09:11 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
Going by the costuming, and that there were some talks to try and get Eccleston involved in Who again, I would guess he's the pre-Eccleston Doctor from the Time War.

3chordboy May 19 2013 09:30 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
if the name The Doctor is supposed to be a promise then trapping billions in a time lock and leaving them to die goes completely against the notion of a doctor doing no harm. got to be the real 9th doctor... :)

Procutus May 19 2013 09:33 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
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3chordboy wrote: (Post 8118262)
if the name The Doctor is supposed to be a promise then trapping billions in a time lock and leaving them to die goes completely against the notion of a doctor doing no harm. got to be the real 9th doctor... :)



It really is the theory that makes the most sense, but I wouldn't put it past The Moff to try to turn this into something a bit more complicated.

But the dialogue between Hurt and Smith sure make it seem as if Hurt is the real 9th. The name, the promise and what little we know of the Time War... It makes sense.

Haggis and tatties May 19 2013 09:36 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
I think he is either McGann's doctor but a older version, or he is the Doctor before Hartnell, and he did something so bad that when he changed into Hartnell, his doctor ran away and tried to make amends for it all.

Allyn Gibson May 19 2013 09:36 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
I wonder if we'll get the iconic "John Hurt Is The Doctor!" cover from an upcoming issue of Doctor Who Magazine. :)

3chordboy May 19 2013 09:36 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
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Procutus wrote: (Post 8118304)
But the dialogue between Hurt and Smith sure make it seem as if Hurt is the real 9th. The name, the promise and what little we know of the Time War... It makes sense.

plus all the 'splosions of the time war will look great in 3D for the 50th special! :techman::lol:

C.E. Evans May 19 2013 09:41 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
I voted for "Something Else Entirely." He's the Doctor in the same sense the Valeyard is--he is, yet isn't.

Procutus May 19 2013 09:51 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
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3chordboy wrote: (Post 8118325)
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Procutus wrote: (Post 8118304)
But the dialogue between Hurt and Smith sure make it seem as if Hurt is the real 9th. The name, the promise and what little we know of the Time War... It makes sense.

plus all the 'splosions of the time war will look great in 3D for the 50th special! :techman::lol:



Admittedly, I'd like to see more of what happened in the Time War on screen. It's a huge part of DW history that is basically unexplored, and this could be the means to do it.

OTOH, if Hurt does turn out to be pre-Hartnell, it would greatly play up the 50th anniversary theme, by going back to the very beginning and finding out what made him steal the TARDIS and flee Gallifrey in the first place.

Either way, I'm on board for this ride. I haven't been this psyched about DW in a very long time.

Nagisa Furukawa May 19 2013 09:52 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
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Worf2DS9 wrote: (Post 8118031)
I don't want him to be "the real" 9th Doctor because that would be just a big eff-u to what we've known since 2005.

How so? No one's denying that the Eccleston Doctor is a Doctor, after all he was explicitly shown in the web, we heard his voice, and he was one of the body double Docs at the very end. It would just mean that the Doctor we thought was the 9th is actually 10th, Tennant is 11th and Smith is 12th. Nothing disrespectful about moving the numbers up one.

JoeZhang May 19 2013 09:52 PM

Re: John Hurt as The Doctor
 
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Haggis and tatties wrote: (Post 8118316)
I think he is either McGann's doctor but a older version

I thought we saw McGann's doctor run by?


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