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tmosler May 17 2013 01:57 AM

star trek original series blu ray original special effects question
 
Hi I just have a quick question about the star trek original series blu ray seamless branching original option to view the original special effects. I was wondering whether the original effects are in sd, up converted to HD, or are like the effects in the tng remastering where they went back to the original elements. Also I was wondering whether any of the original effects have been cut at all to save time?

BillJ May 17 2013 02:09 AM

Re: star trek original series blu ray original special effects questio
 
They are copies of the original composited effects. The original elements no longer exist. :(

tmosler May 17 2013 02:28 AM

Re: star trek original series blu ray original special effects questio
 
yes but are they in sd or up contveterted to hd or HD

SpHeRe31459 May 17 2013 02:34 AM

Re: star trek original series blu ray original special effects questio
 
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tmosler wrote: (Post 8100313)
yes but are they in sd or up contveterted to hd or HD

They are 1080p scans of the original film.

In the 60's shows were done on film (VFX, editing/splicing, and all), so there is no SD version like there is for TNG. Doing editing and VFX on video tape wasn't something generally done until the 80's.

CBS Digital scanned in the archival film copies of the entire original episodes and then added in CG replacements that fit in the time allotted to fill in where the original VFX sequence was.

The original VFX sequences were in terrible shape thanks to having so many generations of film used to composite each scene together, not to mention the inevitable dust and dirt the creeps in when you put layers of film together.

Hober Mallow May 22 2013 07:17 PM

Re: star trek original series blu ray original special effects questio
 
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tmosler wrote: (Post 8100193)
Hi I just have a quick question about the star trek original series blu ray seamless branching original option to view the original special effects. I was wondering whether the original effects are in sd, up converted to HD, or are like the effects in the tng remastering where they went back to the original elements.

Actually none of the above.

The entire episodes, with the original FX, are in HD. Unlike with TNG, the completed episode masters are on film, so all that was needed to make the episodes HD was simply to transfer the episodes from film. So, yes, the original FX are, along with the rest of the episodes, in HD. However, also unlike with TNG, the original separate FX elements don't exist. It's only the completed shots with imperfections from 60s limitations that exist. What you see in the DVDs is what you get in HD, just a little clearer. Some of the FX look pretty good in HD, others not so good.

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Also I was wondering whether any of the original effects have been cut at all to save time?

It wouldn't have saved any time to cut out the original FX. It actually would have made the transfer to HD unnecessarily complicated, since all they had to do was transfer entire completed episodes from their film masters.


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