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T'Bonz May 17 2013 01:52 AM

Starfleet and San Francisco
 
Hey guys, why did Roddenberry choose SF for Starfleet? Does anyone know where documentation for that is - other than Wikipedia?

I've had a query from a magazine regarding this and my own resources don't hold that info; I sure regret my recent book cull. :/

Thanks. I'll send along your name or username to the writer for whomever provides the info - that is, unless he's got it from someone else by now.

1001001 May 17 2013 03:18 AM

Re: Starfleet and San Francisco
 
I remember reading that Roddenberry chose San Francisco because that's where the United Nations charter was signed in 1945, but I can't remember where I read it....

:shrug:

robau May 17 2013 06:40 AM

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I just assumed because it's hippie central.

Maurice May 17 2013 09:08 AM

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WAS hippie central. Now it's chinamexicohipstergaytownusa, thankyouverymuch. ;)

T'Girl May 17 2013 12:03 PM

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It's kind of strange that Roddenberry didn't put Starfleet in Los Angeles, he lived a big chunk of his life there, and apparently liked the city.

Early on (I'm not sure when) he came up with the idea that the Enterprise was originally constructed in orbit above San Fransisco, so that might have been the start of the idea.

Maybe it was part of the process of repudiating Franz Joseph's ideas, FJ placed Starfleet HQ in a space station in interstellar space, iirc FJ put the Federation government there too.

:)

C.E. Evans May 17 2013 12:15 PM

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T'Girl wrote: (Post 8102455)
Early on (I'm not sure when) he came up with the idea that the Enterprise was originally constructed in orbit above San Fransisco, so that might have been the start of the idea.

The dedication plaque on the bridge of the TOS Enterprise listed San Francisco as either its construction site or where the ship was commissioned.

It might not have been much of a stretch to place Starfleet Headquarters there too.

Botany Bay May 17 2013 01:46 PM

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Because it's where the UN was founded (as 1001001 mentioned), and also it was where the troops shipped out for WW2 in the Pacific.

Source.

jayrath May 17 2013 08:30 PM

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Until 1974 it was the site of the 638-acre US Navy Shipyards, possibly the largest in the world. If you were looking for a locale to tie a wild sci fi series to earth, and give it a nautical flavor, too, where else would you go? (I mean, other than Riverside, Iowa.)

Captain Rob May 17 2013 10:56 PM

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San Francisco historically had a huge naval presence up untli the late 70's. With both Mare Island naval shipyard (now closed except for some civilian work). The huge San Francisco Navy Yards at Hunters Point (also now closed). And the Naval Air Station and port facilities at Alameda. Now also closed except as a tourist attraction with the WW2 carrier USS Hornet.

MacLeod May 17 2013 11:15 PM

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Quote:

1001001 wrote: (Post 8100637)
I remember reading that Roddenberry chose San Francisco because that's where the United Nations charter was signed in 1945, but I can't remember where I read it....

:shrug:


That's what I had heard as well, though I can't rememer where either.

Mr. Laser Beam May 18 2013 12:38 AM

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Captain Rob wrote: (Post 8105659)
San Francisco historically had a huge naval presence up untli the late 70's.

Where they keep the nuclear wessels, of course.

Captain Rob May 18 2013 08:19 AM

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OT but it was announced today that Dallas, my home, is getting a nuclear wessel. The nuclear attack submarine USS Dallas is to be retired next year and the city wants it for a maritime museum. We're 200 miles from the Gulf of Mexico for crying out loud!

Gov Kodos May 18 2013 08:33 AM

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Captain Rob wrote: (Post 8108455)
OT but it was announced today that Dallas, my home, is getting a nuclear wessel. The nuclear attack submarine USS Dallas is to be retired next year and the city wants it for a maritime museum. We're 200 miles from the Gulf of Mexico for crying out loud!

Can you think of a better hiding place for a nuclear sub? Not as cool as Atragon's, of course, but it'll do.

Gil T.Azell May 18 2013 08:47 AM

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Then again it was the 60's a time of Peace & Love, flower power etc. and San Francisco was the epicenter? When the show was filmed.

Ain Jalut May 19 2013 06:04 AM

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Even in 1966?


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