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xvicente May 7 2013 05:01 PM

about the IV title
 
better known as Star Trek IV - The One With The Whales

What "Voyage Home" is the title referring to?

Is "home" literally the Enterprise ("my friends, we've come home")?

Or Earth? for in the beginning they were on Vulcan with nothing to do.

Coming to think of it, the movie series up to IV made a mess (in a good sense) of Star Trek: Kirk was promoted to Admiral and that was not good, Spock died, the Enterprise was destroyed, Earth almost was destroyed too (twice), very little was left from the tv series. Except of course, the heroes.

Maybe this is why the TNG movies were generally more bland, they were too much like from the tv series model?

But back to the question? What "Voyage Home?"

King Daniel Into Darkness May 7 2013 05:10 PM

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I always saw it as the fight back from Vulcan to Earth, to face the music for what they did in Search For Spock. That's what they were doing - they just ended up saving the world en route!:)

RoJoHen May 7 2013 05:14 PM

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King Daniel wrote: (Post 8054125)
I always saw it as the fight back from Vulcan to Earth, to face the music for what they did in Search For Spock. That's what they were doing - they just ended up saving the world en route!:)

Yeah, that's how I took it as well, but it could also have multiple meanings. I like the idea of the voyage home doubling as their return to the Enterprise at the very end.

Gojira May 7 2013 05:23 PM

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I always saw it as the way King Daniel has mentioned. Also see it as a metaphor about the time travel from the past and back to the future.

DonIago May 7 2013 05:55 PM

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I always assumed it was intended to have multiple meanings.

22 Stars May 7 2013 07:04 PM

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Of course it has a layered meaning. Back to Earth, back to the Enterprise, to their positions in Starfleet on the Enterprise and as a film, back to the audience's home being present day Earth.

R. Star May 7 2013 10:22 PM

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DonIago wrote: (Post 8054269)
I always assumed it was intended to have multiple meanings.

Me too.. the most obvious meaning is going home to face the music for last movie. Though when they ended up trapped in the past, they had to fix the ship to get home... and Kirk said we're home when he got the new Enterprise.

Tom May 8 2013 06:02 PM

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Also, Spock's journey to become more like his old self.



It was originally going to be 'Star Trek IV: Back to the Future' but that that was taken ;)

Lance May 8 2013 06:14 PM

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The Voyage (to the old folks) Home.

I mean let's face it, they were all beginning to get a bit long in the tooth for all this space adventure stuff by that stage. ;)

22 Stars May 9 2013 03:09 PM

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Lance wrote: (Post 8058997)
The Voyage (to the old folks) Home.

I mean let's face it, they were all beginning to get a bit long in the tooth for all this space adventure stuff by that stage. ;)

Well, for older men and women, they did quite well. IV was a critical and popular success, marking what many would consider the dawn of the second golden age in Trek. It inspired Paramount to green light Star Trek: The Next Generation and crossed over into pop culture and appealed to non fans like no Trek film had done before.

Lance May 9 2013 03:52 PM

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I remember reading somewhere that TNG was apparently in very early pre-production even before TVH's premier. So TVH's massive box office might not have had anything to do with TNG being commissioned after all. Although obviously it wouldn't have hurt. :) Paramount probably saw the dollar signs and it made them feel much more comfortable with the decision they'd already made to steer Star Trek back to television.

Christopher May 9 2013 04:54 PM

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Titles are as much about promotion as they are about reflecting story content (and sometimes more so -- Nick Charles was not The Thin Man, and the later Pink Panther movies had nothing to do with the Pink Panther diamond). So I figure the meaning of The Voyage Home was largely to promote the idea to audiences that the movie would be taking the characters, not to some strange new world, but to a recognizable Earth, to our home. Yes, nominally it referred to the voyage back to Earth to deal with the consequences of their actions, but that was secondary, I think.

And yes, I think it's also reflecting the idea of the restoration of the status quo, getting the Enterprise and their old posts back.

Chrono85 May 10 2013 07:50 PM

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I have always thought the title was a bit strange, because the Enterprise actually voyages home quote often. Really, though, almost all of the Trek's have awkward or obtuse titles :). Wrath of Khan is actually a bit cheesy, and Undiscovered Country is just a strange title all together.

CoveTom May 10 2013 08:17 PM

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^ "The Undiscovered Country" was Nick Meyer attempting, as he often does, to sound all high brow and intellectual while making a sci-fi space opera. And "Wrath of Khan" was the marketing department's answer to him trying to do that with Star Trek II.

Chrono85 May 10 2013 08:45 PM

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Ironically, I think that Star Trek V: The Final Frontier had the best title :) It sounds cool and exciting for one, and it was, at the time, supposed to be the final film with the original crew, and so the title kind of brought things back full circle with the word 'final' and the phrase being linked to the series from the beginning. It also fits with the plot, because they are supposed to be voyaging to a part of space which is the ultimate unexplored region of the galaxy. It words on all levels :) It's just too bad that the movie does not!


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