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TrekToday April 25 2013 06:20 PM

Abrams: Star Trek Maybe
 
Don’t count out J.J. Abrams when it comes to directing the next Star Trek movie. When news broke that Abrams was going to direct the next Star Wars movie, it was logical to assume that he would not be able to do both that and the third rebooted Trek movie, but that might not be [...]

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indranee April 25 2013 07:54 PM

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We'll make a trekkie of him yet ;)

Admiral Buzzkill April 25 2013 07:55 PM

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I'd certainly like to see him back. If not, whoever he hires to do the job will do just fine.

Danger Ace April 25 2013 11:08 PM

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TrekToday wrote: (Post 8001319)
Don’t count out J.J. Abrams when it comes to directing the next Star Trek movie. ...
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Gee, with his succinct summation of what he feels makes "Star Trek" so relevant and enduring, “Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

Wow, I got my fingers crossed ... not.

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indranee wrote: (Post 8001805)
We'll make a trekkie of him yet ;)

But do we really, really want to?

His first outing with Trek was fun. In a couple weeks or so we'll get something that looks to be similar. Here's hoping that the third Trek will show us something a bit more ambitious.

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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 8001811)
I'd certainly like to see him back. If not, whoever he hires to do the job will do just fine.

Abrams is a very talented individual yet still a bit immature in terms of filmmaking sensibilities. It would be interesting to get Ridley Scott for the third one. Hell, at this point, I would even go for Oliver Stone, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry or Quentin Tarantino ... just for an interesting change of pace.

Not trying to sh*t on anything just expressing one humble opinion. YMMV.

Ovation April 25 2013 11:18 PM

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I'd love a Tarantino Trek, but if people think Abrams et al. have strayed too far from the "Roddenberry vision thing", well…

I'd like to see Matthew Vaughan try his hand at it. But I'm happy with what Abrams is doing so far, so no rush to pass it off to someone else.

indranee April 26 2013 04:36 AM

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Danger Ace wrote: (Post 8002789)
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TrekToday wrote: (Post 8001319)
Don’t count out J.J. Abrams when it comes to directing the next Star Trek movie. ...
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Gee, with his succinct summation of what he feels makes "Star Trek" so relevant and enduring, “Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

Wow, I got my fingers crossed ... not.

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indranee wrote: (Post 8001805)
We'll make a trekkie of him yet ;)

But do we really, really want to?

His first outing with Trek was fun. In a couple weeks or so we'll get something that looks to be similar. Here's hoping that the third Trek will show us something a bit more ambitious.

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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 8001811)
I'd certainly like to see him back. If not, whoever he hires to do the job will do just fine.

Abrams is a very talented individual yet still a bit immature in terms of filmmaking sensibilities. It would be interesting to get Ridley Scott for the third one. Hell, at this point, I would even go for Oliver Stone, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry or Quentin Tarantino ... just for an interesting change of pace.

Not trying to sh*t on anything just expressing one humble opinion. YMMV.

Wait, you're kidding, right?

NONE of those people will ever do Trek.

Therin of Andor April 26 2013 04:47 AM

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Danger Ace wrote: (Post 8002789)
“Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

Have we all forgotten William Ware Theiss's stock-in-trade, throughout TOS - and even TNG Season One?

Argus Skyhawk April 26 2013 02:40 PM

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Danger Ace wrote: (Post 8002789)
Gee, with his succinct summation of what he feels makes "Star Trek" so relevant and enduring, “Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

That is NOT his "succinct summation of what he feels makes 'Star Trek' so relevant and enduring." It's just his description of one aspect of TOS, and he is correct.

RollTide1017 April 26 2013 03:37 PM

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I never understood the mindset that just because he signed on for Star Wars then he couldn't do Star Trek. It will be 3 to 4 years before the next Trek movie comes out, plenty of time for him to do both. Sometimes directors work on 2 movies at one time. I could easily see him working on post for SW while working on pre-production for Trek.

Tom Servo April 26 2013 03:42 PM

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Danger Ace wrote: (Post 8002789)
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TrekToday wrote: (Post 8001319)
Don’t count out J.J. Abrams when it comes to directing the next Star Trek movie. ...
More...

Gee, with his succinct summation of what he feels makes "Star Trek" so relevant and enduring, “Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

Wow, I got my fingers crossed ... not.

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indranee wrote: (Post 8001805)
We'll make a trekkie of him yet ;)

But do we really, really want to?

His first outing with Trek was fun. In a couple weeks or so we'll get something that looks to be similar. Here's hoping that the third Trek will show us something a bit more ambitious.

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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 8001811)
I'd certainly like to see him back. If not, whoever he hires to do the job will do just fine.

Abrams is a very talented individual yet still a bit immature in terms of filmmaking sensibilities. It would be interesting to get Ridley Scott for the third one. Hell, at this point, I would even go for Oliver Stone, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry or Quentin Tarantino ... just for an interesting change of pace.

Not trying to sh*t on anything just expressing one humble opinion. YMMV.

I wouldn't want ANY of those directors anywhere near Star Trek, except for Ridley. I'd accept that. Tyler Perry? Seriously? I'm not trying to start an argument, but what has Tyler Perry done with film making that JJ hasn't? He's just terrible as a filmmaker. As a businessman though, he is fantastic. He knows his demographic and milks the everliving shit out of it.

Borgminister April 26 2013 03:42 PM

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Danger Ace wrote: (Post 8002789)
“Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

Have we all forgotten William Ware Theiss's stock-in-trade, throughout TOS - and even TNG Season One?

I like miniskirts--they're exciting!

Shaka Zulu April 26 2013 04:13 PM

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indranee wrote: (Post 8004010)
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Danger Ace wrote: (Post 8002789)
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TrekToday wrote: (Post 8001319)
Don’t count out J.J. Abrams when it comes to directing the next Star Trek movie. ...
More...

Gee, with his succinct summation of what he feels makes "Star Trek" so relevant and enduring, “Hey, it wouldn’t be Star Trek if there weren’t some hot young actors, women and men, in various moments of either undress or flirtation.”

Wow, I got my fingers crossed ... not.



But do we really, really want to?

His first outing with Trek was fun. In a couple weeks or so we'll get something that looks to be similar. Here's hoping that the third Trek will show us something a bit more ambitious.

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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 8001811)
I'd certainly like to see him back. If not, whoever he hires to do the job will do just fine.

Abrams is a very talented individual yet still a bit immature in terms of filmmaking sensibilities. It would be interesting to get Ridley Scott for the third one. Hell, at this point, I would even go for Oliver Stone, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry or Quentin Tarantino ... just for an interesting change of pace.

Not trying to sh*t on anything just expressing one humble opinion. YMMV.

Wait, you're kidding, right?

NONE of those people will ever do Trek.

Bullshit, and never say never.

If the film's script is good, and if the directors in question (obviously not Perry) can be persuaded to do so, then these people could direct a Star Trek movie; I said so as much when I mentioned that JMS and Peter Jackson could write and direct one previously.

indranee April 26 2013 06:19 PM

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They just won't. Sorry. You're living in La La land if you think Tarantino will direct Trek. Or Oliver Stone. LOL. Don't make me laugh.

Danger Ace April 26 2013 08:54 PM

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Ovation wrote: (Post 8002834)
I'd love a Tarantino Trek, but if people think Abrams et al. have strayed too far from the "Roddenberry vision thing", well…

And "those people" puzzle me.

The most unique, rare feature of the "Star Trek" franchise is that it was purposely crafted to be able to tell any story one could imagine - why in hell do "those people" want to shackle it to some nebulous ideal?

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I'd like to see Matthew Vaughan try his hand at it. But I'm happy with what Abrams is doing so far, so no rush to pass it off to someone else.
I don't know that name (Mathew Vaughan), but I would be open to him or anyone else. I'd love for a woman to be given the reigns if for no other reason than to see a different perspective, hear a different voice.

In order to live up to the "infinite diversity in infinite combination" we need a diversity of contributors and a diversity of stories being told.

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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 8001811)
I'd certainly like to see him [J.J. Abrams] back. If not, whoever he hires to do the job will do just fine.

Please, do not take this personal, but I don't. It's not that I think Abrams is evil (because I do not) - his best years are still ahead - it is just that he still needs to broaden his repertoire.

I also question why should one person (regardless of who that person is) be put in control of the two biggest space-opera franchises?

There are a lot of equally talented people who could do wonderous things with either - so why put it all in one person's hands, to have both seen through just one set of eyes, to be given just one voice?

And it is not just one person doing both at different times in their career, but at the same time ... it is stiffling and cynical and really not right whereby more folks should object.

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Indranee wrote:
Wait, you're kidding, right?

NONE of those people will ever do Trek.

Maybe those specific names wouldn't. Then again maybe they would. Some in Hollywood only make certain types of films because they are the only type of films they are allowed to make - IOW, they might jump at the opportunity.

In any event, my thesis is one of diversity. Some would say if something ain't broke then don't fix it ... except with Star Trek, if you are only getting one type of story and one type of storytelling then it is broke.

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Therin of Andor wrote: (Post 8004043)
Have we all forgotten William Ware Theiss's stock-in-trade, throughout TOS - and even TNG Season One?

You shame me in that it is only right to give William Ware Theiss thanks and praise for his minimalist approach to Star Trek. Salute. :techman:

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RollTide1017 wrote: (Post 8005618)
I never understood the mindset that just because he signed on for Star Wars then he couldn't do Star Trek.

It is a question of one person needlessly being given a creative monoply by virtue of having the reigns of the two biggest science-fiction franchises going. I think if Abrams was a bit more mature he would hand of "Star Trek 3" to someone else just on principle and out of decency.

I would hope people would argue against anyone cornering any market. Would we want only one conglomerate making all the movies? All the news? All the ... anything? We shouldn't and I don't.

Again, my opinion.

Xaios April 26 2013 08:59 PM

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Maybe if Tyler Perry directs Star Trek XIII, it'll feature a Madea fan dance...


How's that for a mental image?


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