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Lon Suder April 17 2013 05:18 PM

Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
I recently fisnished DRGIII's Sisko novels, Rough Beasts, and the Duolology.

What are some of the good SIsko novels? I"ve yet to really read a good one. Are any of the older numbered books worth a good Emisarry tale?

CNash April 17 2013 06:51 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
Have you read Unity by SD Perry?

Lon Suder April 17 2013 07:36 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
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CNash wrote: (Post 7958818)
Have you read Unity by SD Perry?

Yeah, there were like 5 pages of Benjmain. Also the Worlds of DS9 Bajor book was pretty bad.

DS9forever April 17 2013 07:58 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
I can't think of any novels that are exclusively about Sisko, although Saratoga is pretty good.

Lon Suder April 17 2013 08:21 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
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DS9forever wrote: (Post 7959205)
I can't think of any novels that are exclusively about Sisko, although Saratoga is pretty good.

Isn't that book bascially Reunion just search and replaced with DS9 names?

R. Star April 17 2013 08:41 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
Well for the vast majority of the DS9 novels he's still playing Bajoran Jesus and by the time he does come back he's got another kid and playing family man. Oh he'll pop up in a lot of the novels to help out with the latest problem, but they really don't center upon him.

DS9forever April 17 2013 09:50 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
^ Sisko was more important to the plots of Plagues of Night and Raise the Dawn than Picard was.

tomswift2002 April 17 2013 10:55 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
Don't forget that there was the novelization of Far Beyond The Stars. While I haven't read the novel (although it is on my shelf and on my "To Read" list), as I recall the episode Sisko and his 1950's counterpart, Benny Russell, were the lead characters.

But with the numbered novels I don't recall any one particular novel centering him out. Sisko did play big roles in the novels, but it was kind of like he was there, but we need to focus on the rest of the ensemble. The Siege had Sisko in it, but it was more an Odo novel, whereas Bloodletter was a Kira novel and both The Big Game and The 34th Rule were novels about Quark. I do recall that in The Long Night, Sisko is presented as being an amateur historian on the long-lost emperor that people are looking to find in that book, but that's a book where all or most of the cast members seemed to get their own scene.

Thrawn April 17 2013 11:02 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
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DS9forever wrote: (Post 7959805)
^ Sisko was more important to the plots of Plagues of Night and Raise the Dawn than Picard was.

Yeah, this is pretty good Sisko stuff.

I also liked Station Rage, which made an old school mythological throwdown out of a fight between Sisko and a reanimated ancient Cardassian. A little over the top, but fun to imagine Sisko as an Epic Hero.

Angry Fanboy April 18 2013 09:39 PM

Angry Fanboy
 
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Lon Suder wrote: (Post 7959337)
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DS9forever wrote: (Post 7959205)
I can't think of any novels that are exclusively about Sisko, although Saratoga is pretty good.

Isn't that book bascially Reunion just search and replaced with DS9 names?

This made me giggle. It's not actually far from the truth if I'm completely honest! :lol:

DS9forever April 18 2013 09:54 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
Memory Beta has a quote from the author of Saratoga: "I had so much fun with Reunion I thought I would do it again... I certainly wasn't recycling stuff".

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Sa...l)#Information

Angry Fanboy April 18 2013 10:05 PM

Angry Fanboy
 
Obviously it's oversimplifying the matter to call Saratoga 'Reunion with the DS9 characters' - but I suppose two novels written by the same author a few years apart that feature the captain's former crew coming together aboard his new command and being betrayed by one of their number will elicit that reaction from some readers. :)

But that said I enjoyed both of them, and since I'm assuming that Reunion was successful it made sense to do another featuring the next cast involving the same basic premise.

It's still not in the same league as Voyager's One and Enterprise's Doctor's Orders! :lol:

Cap'n Crunch April 19 2013 02:54 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
Another similarity between Reunion and Saratoga:

Angry Fanboy April 19 2013 03:20 PM

Angry Fanboy
 
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Cap'n Crunch wrote: (Post 7968859)
Another similarity between Reunion and Saratoga:

I didn't think of that! :lol:

DorkBoy [TM] April 19 2013 03:59 PM

Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.
 
Yeah, when I read the cover blurb for Saratoga I had the same thought, and sadly after reading it decided I was right. I never cared much for Reunion anyway, I figured out way before the crew did who-dunnit. And when I read Saratoga I thought "Wouldn't it be funny if ... ?" and turned out I was right. Its annoying to read a murder mystery when you figure out the ending long before the characters do, it makes them seem dumb.

The only really good Sisko novel I can think of offhand is the followup to "In the Pale Moonlight" they did a few years back: "Hollow Men"

The real trouble is, the DS9 novels didn't actually start getting good until the DS9 relaunch. Its my favorite TV series, but the tight continuity of the show meant that the novels couldn't really do DS9 justice until they could establish their own continuity free of the confines of the show. And by that time Sisko was "with the prophets." He returned in Unity but then the DS9R kind of fizzled after that.

RBoE is one of the main Sisko-centric stories they've done since then, and yeah, it had mixed reviews. I didn't think it was terrible, but it wasn't great either. Its just a new journey for the character. The Sisko is really not himself right now, he's back in his S1 mindset. I'm confident he'll pull himself out of it eventually. :)


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