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calamity_si April 16 2013 02:39 PM

STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
This article http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/15/mtv-...ther-starship/ got me very exited about the prospect of a nice new shiny Starship in the upcoming movie. I wasn't much of a fan of the new Enterprise redesign, so I'm hoping this one will be a bit more impressive. She's already been described as;

"Dreadnaught Class. Two times the size – three times the speed – advanced weaponry – minimal crew…built solely for combat..."

Sounds awesome! Based on the screengrabs and trailer, I've quickly sketched the following doodle of the ship:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30567287@N07/8654263025/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30567287@N07/8654263025/

I'd like to make this thread about the ship in general, so please post any descriptions, pictures, doodles etc.

BillJ April 16 2013 02:41 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
From the front, your sketch looks pretty much like a Sovereign-class (Enterprise-E).

calamity_si April 16 2013 02:46 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
I know. I think this new ship has an uncharacteristically cool recessed navigational deflector. If you freeze the movie on the Trekmovie link I provided just as she flattens the 'Alcatraz' house, you'll see a very quick flash of it. It seems to be built into the neck, just above two angled 'nubbins' on the underside. Possibly weapons pods... Have a look and post your own doodle!

bullethead April 16 2013 02:48 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
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BillJ wrote: (Post 7952116)
From the front, your sketch looks pretty much like a Sovereign-class (Enterprise-E).

Maybe it is a AbramsTrek TOS version of a Sovereign. John Eaves is still on the design staff IIRC.

calamity_si April 16 2013 02:55 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
I've just asked him about it on his 'Eavesdropping' website....doubt he'd be able to tell us much without getting his site shut down like poor ol' Drexy....

calamity_si April 16 2013 03:16 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8...461b830da8.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3056728...n/photostream/

King Daniel Into Darkness April 16 2013 03:24 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
My theory is that Ambassador Spock has given Starfleet a major technological boost - hence this ship's vague resemblance to the Enterprise-E, and most of all - why Starfleet's "newest flagship" is so overpowered just one year after her launch.

I just wish it had a third nacelle! The old novel Dreadnought! by Diane Carey is one of my all-time favourites.
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...readnought.jpg
This is the USS Star Empire MKC-2331. I loved this design far more than the version in the old Star Fleet Technical Manual.

I wouldn't be suprised if they called this ship USS Star Empire after the ship in the novel. It is a very cool name.

bullethead April 16 2013 03:31 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
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King Daniel wrote: (Post 7952263)
I wouldn't be suprised if they called this ship USS Star Empire after the ship in the novel. It is a very cool name.

Eh... the name isn't very Federation. It sounds more like something the Terran Empire would use or part of a political faction's name. That said, I can see some similarities between that ship and this Dreadnought, mostly in the shape of the engineering hull.

calamity_si April 16 2013 03:35 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
Agreed about the third nacelle...that would've REALLY made it a Dreadnought... Still, I can't quite get how a ship that seems to be so advanced and built for battle ends up crashing into San Fransisco. Deanna Troi at the helm again perhaps?

WarpFactorZ April 16 2013 04:20 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
My friends: the great experiment. The Excelsior. Ready for trial runs.

King Daniel Into Darkness April 16 2013 04:22 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
^^prefix codes, perhaps?

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bullethead wrote: (Post 7952308)
Eh... the name isn't very Federation. It sounds more like something the Terran Empire would use or part of a political faction's name. That said, I can see some similarities between that ship and this Dreadnought, mostly in the shape of the engineering hull.

Well, for what it's worth, here's the complete class listing from FJS' 1975 Star Fleet Technical Manual *deep breath*:

Affiliation
Alliance
Association
Compactat
Concordat
Confederation
Consortium
Corporation
Directorate
Dominion (:eek:)
Entente
Federation (the ship the class is named for)
Konkordium
Organization
Star Empire
Star League
Star System
Star Union
Trusteeship
Unificatum

Not exactly a spellbinding bunch of names. Star Empire sounds incredibly badass to me, and if they use one I'd like it to be that. It's not particularly "Federation-y" but fitting as a villain's ubership, and as a tool of a post-Vulcan Federation that is slipping... (wait for it)... Into Darkness! *thunderclap!*

BTW, where is the discription of this ship from? I take it one of the spoilerific previews?

ROBE April 16 2013 06:37 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
Then again maybe it is called Dreadnought.

Herkimer Jitty April 16 2013 06:40 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
The USS Bend Over, I'll Show You

The Badger April 16 2013 06:46 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
Quote:

bullethead wrote: (Post 7952308)
Quote:

King Daniel wrote: (Post 7952263)
I wouldn't be suprised if they called this ship USS Star Empire after the ship in the novel. It is a very cool name.

Eh... the name isn't very Federation. It sounds more like something the Terran Empire would use or part of a political faction's name.

That was a major plot point of the novel. The dreadnought class had been developed by a militaristic faction of Star Fleet.

Hartzilla2007 April 16 2013 07:02 PM

Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]
 
Quote:

King Daniel wrote: (Post 7952263)
My theory is that Ambassador Spock has given Starfleet a major technological boost - hence this ship's vague resemblance to the Enterprise-E, and most of all - why Starfleet's "newest flagship" is so overpowered just one year after her launch.

I don't see why they would need Spock Prime's help to build it I mean it doesn't have to have better tech to out match the Enterprise it just needs bigger version of everything the Enterprise has added to the fact that its built for combat not exploration so more of it is devoted to having big f@#king guns.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Starfleet had some uber warships in reserve to deal with major threats I mean its is kind of a sensible thing to do given how many times their ships get curb stomped by giant space things of death.

Especially after Nero took out a fleet of their ships while most of Starfleet was busy elsewhere and imploded a major member planet and almost did the same thing to earth and the rest of the federation.


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