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Aike April 13 2013 06:32 PM

Comments From Someone Who Has Seen Into Darkness
 
Unfortunately, itīs not me. But on the Swedish website Star Trek Database, a member posted that a friend of her has seen the movie. It seems plausible since the friend works with translating the movie into Swedish.

Her friend gave it 3 stars out 5 as a Star Trek movie, but 4/5 as a normal movie.

Letīs see if I can get some more info from her. Unfortunately, she hates spoilers so I donīt think she will reveal any big secrets.

Borgminister April 13 2013 06:37 PM

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That is funny--4/5 as a "normal" movie, 3/5 as a Star Trek movie--all those nits to pick! :)

M'Sharak April 13 2013 06:40 PM

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Aike wrote: (Post 7939732)

Her friend gave it 3 stars out 5 as a Star Trek movie, but 4/5 as a normal movie.

I think I like this.

Franklin April 13 2013 06:48 PM

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According to the translation of the article I read, the person only saw 34 minutes of the movie. It was probably the same stuff shown in Brazil and Australia.

Aike April 13 2013 06:51 PM

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Franklin wrote: (Post 7939786)
According to the translation of the article I read, the person only saw 34 minutes of the movie. It was probably the same stuff shown in Brazil and Australia.

Nope. Here is the whole thread.

She claims her friend saw the whole movie in the fourth message.

Still, yes, the thread is about when they showed the first 34 minutes in Sweden. But the friend is not a journalist, but some kind of translator.

tmosler April 13 2013 07:17 PM

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wow if this post is real it would be so cool. any idea if we can get any hints on who the villian is?

Franklin April 13 2013 07:19 PM

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Aike wrote: (Post 7939804)
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Franklin wrote: (Post 7939786)
According to the translation of the article I read, the person only saw 34 minutes of the movie. It was probably the same stuff shown in Brazil and Australia.

Nope. Here is the whole thread.

She claims her friend saw the whole movie in the fourth message.

Still, yes, the thread is about when they showed the first 34 minutes in Sweden. But the friend is not a journalist, but some kind of translator.

Oh, OK. I see that, now. I was connecting that remark with the article mentioned in the first post. Unfortunately (for those of us who like being spoiled), I guess the 4/5, 3/5 scores is the most information we'll get out of him on it.

-Brett- April 13 2013 07:38 PM

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Aike wrote: (Post 7939732)
Her friend gave it 3 stars out 5 as a Star Trek movie, but 4/5 as a normal movie.

I find that there's no better indication that something is fundamentally wrong with a series than when something like this is said.

A good movie is a good movie is a good movie. If you have to make a bad movie in order to make good Star Trek, something is very wrong with Star Trek.

Christopher April 13 2013 07:48 PM

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^That's not how I interpret it. A lot of Trek fans take points off for continuity discrepancies or differences in tone and style from what they're used to. It sounds to me like they're saying it's more enjoyable if you don't dwell on such issues.

Flake April 13 2013 08:02 PM

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I threw canon out the window decades ago. I don't give a frak about canon and I absolutely do not want it to get in the way of a good movie. Same goes for any technological issues or continuity problems. Do. Not. Care. Just give me an entertaining movie.

Also, trek has broke it's own canon/continuity hundreds of times before JJA got hold of it.

billcosby April 13 2013 08:09 PM

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Based on what I've seen/read thus far, my guess would be that it rates lower as a Trek film because Kirk spends very little screen time:
a) on the bridge of his ship
b) in a starfleet uniform
Although the same could be said of most of the previous Trek films... they are always going rouge, against orders, etc.

thumbtack April 13 2013 10:04 PM

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Aike wrote: (Post 7939732)
Her friend gave it 3 stars out 5 as a Star Trek movie, but 4/5 as a normal movie.


Shhhh, that's just what Paramount wants to hear. Well, they would prefer 1/5 as a Trek movie and 5/5 as a normal movie but not all of us are going to deduct 4 points for canon violation.

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tmosler wrote: (Post 7939852)
any idea if we can get any hints on who the villian is?


German distributor was briefly saying Khan. Maybe gag orders are more difficult to understand in German?

Christopher April 13 2013 10:15 PM

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^Or maybe the Khan rumor has been around for so long (since before the script was even written, remember) that it's taken on a life of its own. Repeat something often enough and people believe it's true whether it is or not.

King Daniel Into Darkness April 13 2013 10:58 PM

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4/5 sounds good to me! I'm a lifelong, die-hard Trekkie, and to me the idea that a film needs a separate ranking "as a Trek movie" is elitist BS.
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Christopher wrote: (Post 7939951)
^That's not how I interpret it. A lot of Trek fans take points off for continuity discrepancies or differences in tone and style from what they're used to. It sounds to me like they're saying it's more enjoyable if you don't dwell on such issues.

In my experience, it usually involves talk of Gene's Vision(TM) and how Abrams' Trek spends too much time being fun and exciting and not enough time reciting the pretentious nonsense of The Next Generation.

Flake April 13 2013 11:05 PM

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Well some fans do not comprehend that a $200 million dollar tentpole movie in 2013 is going to differ somewhat from a random TV episode of Trek from the 60s or 90s


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