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safarial April 5 2013 02:54 AM

disney, and the star wars eu
 
http://io9.com/is-disney-about-to-de...nive-470481676 interesting article about the eu, and the new movies.

Turtletrekker April 5 2013 03:30 AM

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Well, the the "canon-osity" of the EU has always been questionable to me anyway. The Lucas "multi-tier canon" approach basically meant, "canon until contradicted on-screen". In other words, "not canon". And I say this as a fan of the EU.

Mr Light April 5 2013 04:37 AM

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As a huge fan of the EU, particularly all the novels... I think they SHOULD reboot the continuity.

We've had, what, 75 novels to tell the post ROTJ story now. The Big Three are pretty old at the point of the novels now.

Only thousands of people have read the EU novels. Millions will see the Sequel Trilogy. There is no way in hell that the makes of the Sequels will, or should, be beholden to the old continuity only a few know about, which was conceived in the 90s before we knew anything about the Prequels.

I'm looking forward to an entirely rethought post-ROTJ continuity, one more closely in line with the movies (read: less Empire Remnant Super Weapons, more Dark Siders).

Ancient Mariner April 5 2013 04:40 AM

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Eh, I can't get too worked up. I'll miss the Clone Wars TV show. But even if Disney made movies that thoroughly contradicted the show ... I'll still have my BluRays ...

This reminds me a bit of how Abrams tweaked the Star Trek universe. In which case, I say: Have at it. I can enjoy the new material while still being able to reminisce with the old.

Dick Whitman April 5 2013 04:45 AM

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Buts its not like what happened with Star Trek which I had no problem with it. The difference is that 6 films that have already been made will not be affected at all. The new trilogy will be a direct sequel. Only the books would be disregarded.

Temis the Vorta April 5 2013 04:46 AM

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To Disney, Star Wars means the recognizable elements - Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Artoo, ole Darth - the characters that a random person in a mall in Cleveland could rattle off from memory. That's what they paid $4 billion for.

Expecting them to value the EU is like expecting them to care about Snow White's backstory from the original tale. (Whatever happened to poor Rose Red anyway?)

My main question is about ole Darth. Once upon a time, he was the Star Wars brand's single most valuable asset. When the first two movies came out, he was everyone's favorite character.

Sure, his brand has been badly tarnished but Disney isn't going to give up on a asset with such huge underlying value. They'll find a way to resurrect the guy, either with James Earl Jones or a sound-alike.

Mr Light April 5 2013 04:59 AM

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Sadly, I think what's going to happen to the old EU novels is what happened to the Clone Wars Micro Series. They'll yank all the copies off the shelves and never sell them again, because it would conflict with the new product they're trying to sell. They want to avoid reader confusion.

Remember, the EU writers were forced to kill Anakin Solo because the powers that be thought casual readers would confuse him with Anakin Skywalker.

Corran Horn April 5 2013 05:17 AM

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Temis the Vorta wrote: (Post 7900816)
To Disney, Star Wars means the recognizable elements - Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Artoo, ole Darth - the characters that a random person in a mall in Cleveland could rattle off from memory. That's what they paid $4 billion for.

Well, kinda. According to this...

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The movies reacquainted Iger with Luke Skywalker, the questing Jedi Knight, and his nemesis Darth Vader, the Sith Lord who turns out to be (three-decade-old spoiler alert) his father. Beyond the movies, Iger needed to know Lucasfilm had a stockpile of similarly rich material—aka intellectual property—for more Star Wars installments. As any serious aficionado knows, there were always supposed to be nine. But how would Disney assess the value of an imaginary galaxy? What, for example, was its population?

As it turned out, Lucas had already done the cataloging. His company maintained a database called the Holocron, named after a crystal cube powered by the Force. The real-world Holocron lists 17,000 characters in the Star Wars universe inhabiting several thousand planets over a span of more than 20,000 years. It was quite a bit for Disney to process. So Lucas also provided the company with a guide, Pablo Hidalgo. A founding member of the Star Wars Fan Boy Association, Hidalgo is now a “brand communication manager” at Lucasfilm. “The Holocron can be a little overwhelming,” says Hidalgo, who obsesses over canonical matters such as the correct spelling of Wookiee and the definitive list of individuals who met with Yoda while he was hiding in the swamps of Dagobah.
I'm certain Disney cares about the "big 3" - but don't think they haven't been paying attention to the Clone Wars TV show as well. Heck, there are little kids Star Wars fans out there that haven't even seen the original trilogy.

Takeru April 5 2013 08:47 AM

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Temis the Vorta wrote: (Post 7900816)
To Disney, Star Wars means the recognizable elements - Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Artoo, ole Darth - the characters that a random person in a mall in Cleveland could rattle off from memory. That's what they paid $4 billion for.

Expecting them to value the EU is like expecting them to care about Snow White's backstory from the original tale. (Whatever happened to poor Rose Red anyway?)

Nothing happened to her, she's from a different fairy tale, in german the tales are called "Schneewittchen" (Snow White) and "Schneewei▀chen und Rosenrot" (Snow White and Rose Red). It's a translation issue, the two Snow Whites are not the same character.

T'Girl April 5 2013 12:27 PM

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Samuel Walters wrote: (Post 7900801)
This reminds me a bit of how Abrams tweaked the Star Trek universe.

Tweaked?





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Fist McStrongpunch April 5 2013 04:13 PM

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I love the original trilogy. I love the prequel trilogy. But to me, the EU is Star Wars, which is why the announcement of a sequel trilogy which would beyond a doubt destroy the EU has saddened me ever since it was announced. And it's become even worse with Disney's making clear that they no longer want to publish the rich tapestry of interesting stories featuring original characters in different eras, and instead want to focus only on tie-ins to whatever will be in theaters next. And so, I've recently come to the decision that I'll be treating Star Wars as having two separate continuities (not parallel universes, completely separate continuities). The first will include everything that has been published up until the Mouse destroys everything, and the second will be nothing but the movies. I will be ignoring the "New Fift-EU" that Disney will inevitably create.

Gaith April 5 2013 05:13 PM

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Wars, wars, wars! When will the galaxy ever know star peace? :p

Greg Cox April 5 2013 05:20 PM

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Mr Light wrote: (Post 7900795)

Only thousands of people have read the EU novels. Millions will see the Sequel Trilogy. There is no way in hell that the makes of the Sequels will, or should, be beholden to the old continuity only a few know about, which was conceived in the 90s before we knew anything about the Prequels.

Bingo. We're talking entirely different orders of magnitude here, in terms of the potential audience. This is the only practical way to go.

Relayer1 April 5 2013 05:53 PM

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I'm not trying to upset the dedicated EU fans out there, but I am actually rather excited by this. I am old enough to have purchased Splinter when it was first published and devoured the Zahn novels and what came after until about midway through the Vong arc I realised that I just wasn't interested any more. There had been too many so-so novels, too many characters I didn't take to, too many political reversals and I just lost interest. I stopped reading and shortly after, abandoned Star Wars altogether. I've seen around half of the Clone Wars show.

I am actually interested in SW again by this restart. I may even pick up the (inevitable) novels in the new continuity. I am happy they've ditched the dross and may make a better job of it this time around. As for the good stuff that's also ditched, I can live with it.

I'd like to see a tighter reign on it this time, less books (unlikely I know) with better authors, better quality control, less contradictory stories and less filler.

As a nod to the old stuff, a final novel with some sort of time JJverse time-travelling (time walking ?) reset would seem the best option to me. I am sure some characters and events will make it into the new EU anyway. I hear Mara Jade and Chewie are dead at the moment.

For me, it's Welcome Back Star Wars. And welcome back Chewie, welcome back...

Captain Nebula April 5 2013 06:12 PM

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You know, they could always make the new movies be in a parallel universe.

:wtf:


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