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WesleysDisciple March 22 2013 05:10 PM

"the chase" Reprucussions
 
its never mentioned again... but any idea how the message at the end of the episode affects the academic and scientific community in the federation and elsewhere?

MikeS March 22 2013 05:55 PM

Re: "the chase" Reprucussions
 
Why would there be reprecussions except for the advancement of peace, knowledge and understanding?

We don't really get to see the "reprecussions" of the Theory of Evolution in everyday life... Maybe the odd documentary about some backward hick school teaching "inteligent design", but other than that it doesn't really affect us too much.

I think the same would apply to the Trek universe and to the "Theory of Galactic-Evolution" - perhaps they debate it in science symposiums, perhaps some backward "hick" school on Andor teaches that we all evolved seperatley on seperate planets. Certainly nothing worthy of devoting an hours worth of television to.

Pavonis March 22 2013 06:10 PM

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Beyond the classroom and archaeological activities, the revelation of the existence of an ancient humanoid race that "seeded" planets billions of years ago wouldn't have any impact on day-to-day life or galactic politics. Besides, we rarely see anything of the non-Starfleet side of the Federation, so why would we expect to see the fall out from the episode "The Chase" in future episodes?

Timo March 22 2013 08:34 PM

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One might assume the scientific community already believed in the existence of a progenitor culture or cultures, and in massive seeding, and had done so for centuries. It's a natural assumption, after all, given the evidence.

The idea that the progenitors could have left messages embedded in DNA appears to have come as a surprise, though - so one obvious consequence of the episode would be the launching of an effort to find more such messages, possibly by other ancients. The existence of such messages is more or less inevitable, and there would probably be interesting stories to be told there.

Not in the sense of making for interesting, televisable episodes of Star Trek on their own, of course: "The Chase" already covered that ground. They might be the basis of novels - or an excuse to tell completely different stories much like the Iconian backstory from "Contagion" was an excuse to tell "To the Death", or the time travel element from "Tomorrow is Yesterday" was used to set up "Assignment: Earth".

Timo Saloniemi

Mojochi March 22 2013 09:11 PM

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less killing one another?

Captain McBain March 22 2013 10:18 PM

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Quote:

MikeS wrote: (Post 7835131)
Why would there be reprecussions except for the advancement of peace, knowledge and understanding?

We don't really get to see the "reprecussions" of the Theory of Evolution in everyday life... Maybe the odd documentary about some backward hick school teaching "inteligent design", but other than that it doesn't really affect us too much.

Yup, the old ad hominem attack. Actually, much evidence contradicts evolution and many scientists in our day are creationists. The reason for this is because evolution is not based on facts, but speculation and unproveable assumptions.

Intelligent design is reasonable and is supported by our everyday experiences; life and blind nature creating itself is unreasonable and not supported by our everyday experiences.

But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

Relayer1 March 22 2013 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Captain McBain wrote: (Post 7836553)
Quote:

MikeS wrote: (Post 7835131)
Why would there be reprecussions except for the advancement of peace, knowledge and understanding?

We don't really get to see the "reprecussions" of the Theory of Evolution in everyday life... Maybe the odd documentary about some backward hick school teaching "inteligent design", but other than that it doesn't really affect us too much.

Yup, the old ad hominem attack. Actually, much evidence contradicts evolution and many scientists in our day are creationists. The reason for this is because evolution is not based on facts, but speculation and unproveable assumptions.

Intelligent design is reasonable and is supported by our everyday experiences; life and blind nature creating itself is unreasonable and not supported by our everyday experiences.

But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

Does someone out there want to pick that up, or is it too obvious a target ?

SonicRanger March 22 2013 10:33 PM

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Captain McBain wrote: (Post 7836553)
Actually, much evidence contradicts evolution and many scientists in our day are creationists.

You don't know many scientists, do you?

Pondwater March 22 2013 11:20 PM

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The message fell on deaf ears. Besides Crusher and Picard, the rest of them kept bickering afterward. It was only the Romulan that messaged Picard afterward acknowledging the general point of the message saying "Perhaps were not completely dissimilar.." .

The Klingon and Cardassians quickly left orbit, probably forgetting what that message was about and returning to their home worlds. Probably the contents of the message was stored away by the Federation and Romulans in some database somewhere.

iguana_tonante March 22 2013 11:34 PM

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Quote:

Relayer1 wrote: (Post 7836670)
Quote:

Captain McBain wrote: (Post 7836553)
Yup, the old ad hominem attack. Actually, much evidence contradicts evolution and many scientists in our day are creationists. The reason for this is because evolution is not based on facts, but speculation and unproveable assumptions.

Intelligent design is reasonable and is supported by our everyday experiences; life and blind nature creating itself is unreasonable and not supported by our everyday experiences.

But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

Does someone out there want to pick that up, or is it too obvious a target ?

Evolution will take care of it.

J. Allen March 22 2013 11:41 PM

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Quote:

Captain McBain wrote: (Post 7836553)
Quote:

MikeS wrote: (Post 7835131)
Why would there be reprecussions except for the advancement of peace, knowledge and understanding?

We don't really get to see the "reprecussions" of the Theory of Evolution in everyday life... Maybe the odd documentary about some backward hick school teaching "inteligent design", but other than that it doesn't really affect us too much.

Yup, the old ad hominem attack. Actually, much evidence contradicts evolution and many scientists in our day are creationists. The reason for this is because evolution is not based on facts, but speculation and unproveable assumptions.

Intelligent design is reasonable and is supported by our everyday experiences; life and blind nature creating itself is unreasonable and not supported by our everyday experiences.

But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

Nah.

Mojochi March 22 2013 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Captain McBain wrote:
But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

You have facts that answer the question of God's existence? I'd like to examine those

J. Allen March 22 2013 11:49 PM

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Mojochi wrote: (Post 7836919)
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Relayer1 wrote: (Post 7836670)
But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

You have facts that answer the question of God's existence? I'd like to examine those

Watch out for quicksand, my friend. ;)

CorporalClegg March 22 2013 11:50 PM

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Mojochi wrote: (Post 7836919)
Quote:

Relayer1 wrote: (Post 7836670)
But, of course, emotion trumps the facts when it comes to the question of God's existence.

You have facts that answer the question of God's existence? I'd like to examine those

Are you trying to appeal to our ignorance?

Mojochi March 23 2013 12:01 AM

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I'm just saying I don't know of anyone who can offer up a fact that answers the question of God's existence, & leave it at that


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