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Mutara Nebula 1967 March 21 2013 06:07 PM

New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big three.
 
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/265...r-pics-trailer

Wirhout having seen the new movie it seems a forgone conclusion that Uhura will have a bigger role than Dr. McCoy.
I actually have no problem with that as Dr. McCoy in either incarnation was never a character that I liked.

It is interesting though how far we've come from the 1960's and how smart the marketing people are to elevate the sexy Uhura character.

Still...anyone remember when Trek posters actually had THE ENTERPRISE on them?

The Keeper March 21 2013 06:16 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
One, (of many) complaints an aunt of mine always (loudly) harped upon whenever the subject of Star Trek came up was how the Doctor hardly ever seemed to be "where he belonged", in sickbay. Perhaps Nutrek producers agree with her sentiments.

I'm fine with it, I'm sure Bones will still get enough screen-time.

Christopher March 21 2013 06:37 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
On the one hand, the publicity for the first movie did the same thing, and Uhura was arguably a more important character than McCoy there, so this is nothing new. It makes sense; not only would it be natural for a modern production to play up its female lead more rather than sidelining her, but Zoe Saldana is one of the biggest stars in the cast and they'd be fools to relegate her to opening hailing frequencies.

On the other hand, remember all those publicity photos for the second TOS pilot that featured Shatner, Nimoy, and Andrea Dromm, giving the impression that Dromm was one of the lead cast members? In the actual pilot, her entire speaking part consisted of four syllables. So you can't trust promotional materials to be accurate.

DarthTom March 21 2013 06:42 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
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Mutara Nebula 1967 wrote: (Post 7830133)
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/265...r-pics-trailer

Wirhout having seen the new movie it seems a forgone conclusion that Uhura will have a bigger role than Dr. McCoy.
I actually have no problem with that as Dr. McCoy in either incarnation was never a character that I liked.

It is interesting though how far we've come from the 1960's and how smart the marketing people are to elevate the sexy Uhura character.

Still...anyone remember when Trek posters actually had THE ENTERPRISE on them?

Or.... Zoe Zaldana sells more tickets than Urban does. ;)

C.E. Evans March 21 2013 07:02 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
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The Keeper wrote: (Post 7830181)
One, (of many) complaints an aunt of mine always (loudly) harped upon whenever the subject of Star Trek came up was how the Doctor hardly ever seemed to be "where he belonged", in sickbay. Perhaps Nutrek producers agree with her sentiments.

"Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a movie poster boy."
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I'm fine with it, I'm sure Bones will still get enough screen-time.
Same here, and my thoughts exactly.

crucifixion March 21 2013 07:17 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
Since they are trying to appeal to a greater fan base, it makes sense to have a woman in the main group. That attracts the female audience to the movie.

Plus from a real life perspective, Zoe is a bigger star than Urban.
And if you think about it, if you saw the same poster with the Doc then you have 4 men all featured. Doesn't look right if you want to attract different people. So a woman makes it work. Plus like I said, its Zoe, so more people are gonna be like "hey its that chick from Avatar...must be a good movie then"

Franklin March 21 2013 07:32 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
Well, Ilia bumped McCoy off of the TMP movie poster. Saavik appeared with Kirk and Spock instead of McCoy on TWOK posters. McCoy is on TSFS poster, but Saavik is more prominent. All seven appear on TVH, together. It's just Kirk and Spock on TFF. The "Big Three," and only The Big Three, finally appear together on TUC poster.

RAMA March 21 2013 07:57 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
Nonsense, this is the marketing dept appealing to women and diversity.

RAMA

thumbtack March 21 2013 08:50 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
Uhura gets to have lines now.

Christopher March 21 2013 08:52 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
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RAMA wrote: (Post 7830574)
Nonsense, this is the marketing dept appealing to women and diversity.

Well, no, it's not nonsense. Yes, featuring the female lead in the publicity doesn't prove anything about the contents of the film itself, as a general rule; but independently of that, the previous film already established Uhura as a more prominent character than McCoy in the new continuity, and given that Saldana is a bigger star than Urban, there is absolutely no reason to expect that to change this time around.

Awesome Possum March 21 2013 09:03 PM

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RAMA wrote: (Post 7830574)
Nonsense, this is the marketing dept appealing to women and diversity.

RAMA

Diversity? Isn't diversity an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era?

Stoo March 21 2013 09:08 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
This would make me slightly sad, as Mccoy is my favourite TOS character and I liked Urban's take on him. And I thought he kinda got sidelined in the second half of the 2009 film.

But, yeah, there's plenty to be said for for having one of your top three characters be something other than white and male.

RAMA March 21 2013 09:35 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 7830820)
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RAMA wrote: (Post 7830574)
Nonsense, this is the marketing dept appealing to women and diversity.

Well, no, it's not nonsense. Yes, featuring the female lead in the publicity doesn't prove anything about the contents of the film itself, as a general rule; but independently of that, the previous film already established Uhura as a more prominent character than McCoy in the new continuity, and given that Saldana is a bigger star than Urban, there is absolutely no reason to expect that to change this time around.

Ehhh no on many counts. Urban is a bigger star, who has been in bigger movies, and McCoy still plays a bigger part. He's the current best friend of the main focus of JJ's movie...Kirk, and his story of growth to the 5 year mission. Uhura is secondary or even tertiary to this.

RAMA

RAMA March 21 2013 09:38 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
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Awesome Possum wrote: (Post 7830862)
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RAMA wrote: (Post 7830574)
Nonsense, this is the marketing dept appealing to women and diversity.

RAMA

Diversity? Isn't diversity an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era?

If you don't keep showing diversity (which is reality) then you get hardening of the arteries and fall back into old habits. It never gets old.

When people see what they are on screen they identify with it.

RAMA

Greg Cox March 21 2013 09:44 PM

Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr
 
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Franklin wrote: (Post 7830487)
Well, Ilia bumped McCoy off of the TMP movie poster. Saavik appeared with Kirk and Spock instead of McCoy on TWOK posters. McCoy is on TSFS poster, but Saavik is more prominent. All seven appear on TVH, together. It's just Kirk and Spock on TFF. The "Big Three," and only The Big Three, finally appear together on TUC poster.

Exactly. It's not like the previous generation of movie posters made a big deal of McCoy or "the Big Three."

This is nothing new.


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