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moriluk March 14 2013 04:46 AM

freed borg that Janeway has met
during "The Gift" Janeway tells 7of9 "I've met borg who were freed from the collective. It wasn't easy for them to accept their individuality. but in time they did".

Who is "they"/"them"? I cannot think of anyone other than Picard.

And on that same note, is it even stated that she ever met Picard (or is it just assumed that she did at some point)?

teacake March 14 2013 05:13 AM

Re: freed borg that Janeway has met
She met a mini collective freed from the Hive collective in Unity.

Guy Gardener March 14 2013 05:13 AM

Re: freed borg that Janeway has met

PICARD: Tea, Earl Grey, hot.
RIKER (on intercom): Captain, you have an alpha priority communication from Starfleet Command.
PICARD: Acknowledged.
PICARD: Admiral Janeway. How good to see you again.
JANEWAY (on viewscreen): Jean Luc,'d you like a trip to Romulus?
PICARD: With or without the rest of the fleet?
Of course, they could have met post Voyager.


JANEWAY: I've been looking through the personal log entries of all the Starfleet Captains who encountered the Borg. I've gone over every engagement, from the moment Q flung the Enterprise into the path of that first Cube to the massacre at Wolf Three Five Nine. Every battle, every skirmish. anything that might give me an insight into the mind of the Collective.
JANEWAY: In the words of Jean-Luc Picard. 'In their Collective state, the Borg are utterly without mercy, driven by one will alone: the will to conquer. They are beyond redemption, beyond reason.' And then there's Captain Amasov of the Endeavour. 'It is my opinion that the Borg are as close to pure evil as any race we've ever encountered.' What's so funny?
from Redemption II


O'BRIEN: (at tactical) The Endeavour has cleared the dock, Captain. All ships
standing by
The Endeavour was around after Wolf 359, and either Janeway was a really slow reader, or the Borg hung out in Federation Space a lot more than we knew about.

moriluk March 14 2013 01:35 PM

Re: freed borg that Janeway has met
Thanks teacake. I thought that came after 7of9's appearance. But it didn't. I apologize for not researching more before posting. Voyager was the only Star Trek I never watched in order. I wasn't cool enough to watch it when it aired, only in syndication (used to come on Fox after the Simpsons late night, remember when the Simpsons was a great show?? I hate Fox) which tended to be aired at times in random order.

Also, I knew Picard and Janeway have met Post Voyager (I should have been more specific). But I did say "ever".

Guy Gardener March 14 2013 01:56 PM

Re: freed borg that Janeway has met
I knew what you meant, but that's what I found. The conversation in Nemesis alluded to a previous meeting that could have been before Caretaker, but probably wasn't exclusively. Who do you think was going to brief young captain Janeway on the Maquis threat after Ro Laren ran off on him?

The Mirrorball Man March 14 2013 02:22 PM

Re: freed borg that Janeway has met
And there's Chakotay.

Guy Gardener March 14 2013 10:20 PM

Re: freed borg that Janeway has met
That's never the complete truth.

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