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Maab March 11 2013 12:37 AM

Yet another "Memory Wall" post
 
Hi everybody,
I have been reading this forum for a long time, but this is my first post.


Like many other trekkers, I have always been fascinated (kind word for ‘obsessed’) with the lost ‘Memory Wall’ scene from The Motion Picture, since I first saw a picture of Kirk and Spock floating together (before Internet) and I asked myself “Where does THIS come from?”


Now, many years later, my curiosity has been mostly satisfied, also thanks to Trek BBS and to the very well done Forgotten Trek website. However one thing that always bothered me is that I couldn’t find a single place where all the existing pictures of this lost footage where grouped together. Also in some cases the pictures used in some websites were incredibly small (example here). So I did just that. In the following page you can find a complete collection of Memory Wall pictures, all with a decent size (except one) and in many cases in high resolution. ‘Complete’ simply means all those I could find. For each picture I’ve also tried to indicate the source.


Star Trek - The Motion Picture Memory Wall Pictures Collection


There you’ll find no less than 150 images related to the Memory Wall scene.
Help, corrections and suggestions are always welcome.

Therin of Andor March 11 2013 09:15 AM

Re: Yet another "Memory Wall" post
 
A few times I've posted links to the proof sheets I bought at a charity auction:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6...c40c4ce39f.jpg
TMP contact proofsheet 1 by Therin of Andor, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6...dfd2b1cf08.jpg
TMP contact proofsheet 2 by Therin of Andor, on Flickr

LOKAI of CHERON March 11 2013 10:22 AM

Re: Yet another "Memory Wall" post
 
Great idea, Maab. I will be adding your page to my burgeoning list of Star Trek bookmarks!

Maab March 11 2013 11:14 AM

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Wow, Therin, those proofsheets are fantastic! I’ve never seen them before!


Especially the second one, I believe that it’s test footage for the part when Kirk and Spock move from the trench to the memory wall chamber. The scene was supposed to be shot from above as indicated in this sketch, to simulate the absence of gravity.


May I add them to my page? With proper credits and links of course.


For Lokai thanks for your nice words.


Maab

Therin of Andor March 11 2013 11:28 PM

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Maab wrote: (Post 7786192)
May I add them to my page? With proper credits and links of course.

Sure! :bolian:

Maab March 14 2013 10:47 PM

Re: Yet another "Memory Wall" post
 
OK, added.

Along with few other images, including this one, which I recently discovered and I had never seen before.

http://www.marcellorossi.info/Memory...r%28low%29.jpg

Star Trek The Motion Picture - Memory Wall Pictures Collection

Maab

mos6507 March 14 2013 11:07 PM

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Excellent work. Great to see this all in one place. I have mixed feelings about them not going with this. I suppose it would have just opened them up to criticism that it was a ripoff of Fantastic Voyage, while at the same time, if it had worked, it would have been visually stunning, not that Spock's walk isn't already stunning.

Joker March 14 2013 11:20 PM

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Whatever happened to the alchemist footage?

Maurice March 15 2013 07:28 AM

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Quote:

Maab wrote: (Post 7802506)
OK, added.

Along with few other images, including this one, which I recently discovered and I had never seen before.

http://www.marcellorossi.info/Memory...r%28low%29.jpg

Star Trek The Motion Picture - Memory Wall Pictures Collection

Maab

Neat. Clearly a test since the set is obviously not finished.

i wonder what the hell happened to that V'ger trench set. They manufactured all those pieces, and you'd think they'd have gotten reused someplace.

Maab March 15 2013 08:51 AM

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mos6507 wrote: (Post 7802602)
I have mixed feelings about them not going with this.

Personally I prefer this version to the final one. It's more classic science fiction space action oriented and less "trip of mind" visual experience. But I agree to what Douglas Trumbull said, they would have never be able to do it, and if they did they would have spent the entire remaining budget for special effects. Think of all the things they had to do in post production: the swarms of floating sensor devices, the floating pyramids...


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Maurice wrote: (Post 7804066)
Neat. Clearly a test since the set is obviously not finished.

Yes, and if you look to the big version there are a lot of interesting details. It's clearly visible the gear used to have the astronaut floating, there is a man at the hutch near the ladder. Also the spacesuit is missing few details like the directional thrusters in the front.


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Joker wrote: (Post 7802647)
Whatever happened to the alchemist footage?

Good question. Does anyone know why the footage wasn't released in the end?

Maab

CorporalCaptain March 15 2013 04:09 PM

Re: Yet another "Memory Wall" post
 
Doe anyone else find those sets derivative of the interior of HAL 9000, with Kirk and Spock floating weightless in front of the memory wall, to boot?

Joe_Atari March 15 2013 08:55 PM

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Mmmmm, loves me some Memory Wall. :drool: Great job; thanks Maab!

trevanian March 15 2013 10:14 PM

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Maurice wrote: (Post 7804066)

i wonder what the hell happened to that V'ger trench set. They manufactured all those pieces, and you'd think they'd have gotten reused someplace.

Mike Minor mentioned using lots of bits left over from TMP on TWOK, but a lot of the memory wall stuff looks pretty distinctive ... I would imagine it would be identifiable even if paintedover and opaqued. Then again, if you used the BACKSIDE of those pieces ... who knows? I've often wondered about the model buildings outside of Kirk's apartment, which Minor supposedly had assembled from leftover TMP stuff.

Maab March 16 2013 01:18 AM

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CorporalCaptain wrote: (Post 7805002)
Doe anyone else find those sets derivative of the interior of HAL 9000, with Kirk and Spock floating weightless in front of the memory wall, to boot?

Not the first thing to come to my mind, but there could have been some ispiration. Also the spacesuits' helmets are vaguely similar.

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Joe_Atari wrote: (Post 7805845)
Mmmmm, loves me some Memory Wall. :drool: Great job; thanks Maab!

:bolian:

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trevanian wrote: (Post 7806142)
I've often wondered about the model buildings outside of Kirk's apartment, which Minor supposedly had assembled from leftover TMP stuff.

http://www.trekcore.com/specials/alb..._apartment.jpg


Mmm... maybe the one on the left has some pieces of the memory wall panels?

Maab

Maurice March 16 2013 06:16 AM

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Maab wrote: (Post 7806799)
Quote:

CorporalCaptain wrote: (Post 7805002)
Doe anyone else find those sets derivative of the interior of HAL 9000, with Kirk and Spock floating weightless in front of the memory wall, to boot?

Not the first thing to come to my mind, but there could have been some ispiration. Also the spacesuits' helmets are vaguely similar.

Quote:

Joe_Atari wrote: (Post 7805845)
Mmmmm, loves me some Memory Wall. :drool: Great job; thanks Maab!

:bolian:

Quote:

trevanian wrote: (Post 7806142)
I've often wondered about the model buildings outside of Kirk's apartment, which Minor supposedly had assembled from leftover TMP stuff.

http://www.trekcore.com/specials/alb..._apartment.jpg


Mmm... maybe the one on the left has some pieces of the memory wall panels?

Maab

That cyclorama is left over from The Towering Inferno, and based on the views of it from Kirk's apartment that places his address at roughly at 655 Market Street. Just FYI. ;)


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