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RAMA February 22 2013 08:48 PM

On Board the Enterprise-D
 
Its a book and CD-ROM (yes a CD-ROM) from Mike and Denise Okuda. It's small but its nice to see their return to non-fiction Trek after a long absence, and what better topic than the symbol of STNG but the E-D!

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trekker670 February 22 2013 09:49 PM

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Can you provide a review of the contents of both the book and the CD? I'm curious as to why they went the route of recreating everything in CG rather than use the source images used in the interactive technical manual (at least in part).

RAMA February 23 2013 01:44 AM

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Ok so the verdict is: This is a terrific book to get your children into the show, or for the unenlightened. It's on the short side but it has all the basics and presented with a modern graphical look. I think longtime fans will be less impressed, there isn't a lot that's new here, but as I pointed out, the simple fact that it's a rare (but ever-increasing) non-fiction Star Trek book makes it worthwhile to support so we can get more of the same.

RAMA

SchwEnt February 23 2013 03:40 AM

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I don't know about this book. I've posted similar in other threads before, I can't see the point.

I'm sure it's top quality work, excellent production all around. But even casual fans know all about the bridge and Ten Forward and where the warp nacelles are and so on.

What's the interest for a decades-long TNG fan in seeing bridge illustrations indicating "This is where Captain Picard sits" and "This is the Ops Station". How is that new or interesting for us? Who is this book for?

If TNG is new to someone, and they haven't gotten all the other ST books like this, okay this one is swell.

But unless there's really something new and NEVER-before-seen, this one isn't for me. And I've got ALL the ST stuff.

indolover February 23 2013 03:45 AM

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Non-fiction? The Enterprise-D really exists?

RAMA February 23 2013 04:00 AM

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indolover wrote: (Post 7719253)
Non-fiction? The Enterprise-D really exists?

Yes, on many desktops and shelves all over the world!:techman:

Infern0 February 23 2013 08:58 AM

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Lol'd at CD ROM

Seems like a good idea though, what I really want is a new Star Trek encyclopedia, there is a season of DS9, 4 seasons of Voyager, 4 seasons of Enterprise and soon to be 3 feature films that need adding.

Trekker4747 February 23 2013 03:48 PM

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Meh. The only way this would be interesting if it was an "open-world" concept allowing one to roam the halls of the Enterprise-D entirely, based off the blueprints.

Yeah it'd be a ridiculous undertaking by those involved as the ship is utterly MASSIVE but it'd be interesting as hell.

Forbin February 23 2013 04:15 PM

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Yeah, a bit disappointing. Nothing really new. The big CGI Enterprise orthographic views are nice, even if they labelled he sensor trench as phasers. The rest we've all seen before.

BeatleJWOL February 23 2013 06:04 PM

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Trekker4747 wrote: (Post 7720426)
Yeah it'd be a ridiculous undertaking by those involved as the ship is utterly MASSIVE but it'd be interesting as hell.

A lot of that could be alleviated by having a few repeating spaces, and messages like "nothing but crew quarters here; would you like to turn back or go on through", which would trigger either a return or a skip through to the next non-repetitive section.

davejames February 23 2013 07:50 PM

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trekker670 wrote: (Post 7717651)
Can you provide a review of the contents of both the book and the CD? I'm curious as to why they went the route of recreating everything in CG rather than use the source images used in the interactive technical manual (at least in part).

I think the problem is those images were only at a 640X480 resolution, and wouldn't be quite the size or HD quality we're used to now.

davejames February 23 2013 08:52 PM

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Actually I just got mine in the mail, and am a bit disappointed to see it's just one of those thin SW Dictionary-style books. I was really looking forward to hearing the Okuda's perspective on the making of the show, and maybe getting a few interesting stories we haven't heard before, but instead the book just describes different parts of the ship and how things work (ho-hum).

Still though, I'd say the book is WELL worth the price for the CD and 3D tour. There is some REALLY cool work in that, and it really shows off just how much great design was in that show. You get to see every square inch of the Bridge, Engineering, and Picard's Ready Room, and you even get a tour of Beverly's office. My favorite though was getting to see the bridge from the viewpoint of the Captain's chair.

Shame there weren't a few more rooms though. I would have loved to have seen the crew quarters, Ten Forward, and the vast Main Shuttlebay. And we sadly don't get to fly around the exterior of the ship either. :(

SonicRanger February 23 2013 09:41 PM

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davejames wrote: (Post 7721359)
Actually I just got mine in the mail, and am a bit disappointed to see it's just one of those thin SW Dictionary-style books. I was really looking forward to hearing the Okuda's perspective on the making of the show, and maybe getting a few interesting stories we haven't heard before, but instead the book just describes different parts of the ship and how things work (ho-hum).

Still though, I'd say the book is WELL worth the price for the CD and 3D tour. There is some REALLY cool work in that, and it really shows off just how much great design was in that show. You get to see every square inch of the Bridge, Engineering, and Picard's Ready Room, and you even get a tour of Beverly's office. My favorite though was getting to see the bridge from the viewpoint of the Captain's chair.

Shame there weren't a few more rooms though. I would have loved to have seen the crew quarters, Ten Forward, and the vast Main Shuttlebay. And we sadly don't get to fly around the exterior of the ship either. :(

Well, it all had to fit on a CD-ROM with 700 MB of space.

I guess the CD-ROM answers the question of who this product is for: your parents and their 10-year-old computer.

Squiggy February 23 2013 10:35 PM

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SonicRanger wrote: (Post 7721599)
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davejames wrote: (Post 7721359)
Actually I just got mine in the mail, and am a bit disappointed to see it's just one of those thin SW Dictionary-style books. I was really looking forward to hearing the Okuda's perspective on the making of the show, and maybe getting a few interesting stories we haven't heard before, but instead the book just describes different parts of the ship and how things work (ho-hum).

Still though, I'd say the book is WELL worth the price for the CD and 3D tour. There is some REALLY cool work in that, and it really shows off just how much great design was in that show. You get to see every square inch of the Bridge, Engineering, and Picard's Ready Room, and you even get a tour of Beverly's office. My favorite though was getting to see the bridge from the viewpoint of the Captain's chair.

Shame there weren't a few more rooms though. I would have loved to have seen the crew quarters, Ten Forward, and the vast Main Shuttlebay. And we sadly don't get to fly around the exterior of the ship either. :(

Well, it all had to fit on a CD-ROM with 700 MB of space.

I guess the CD-ROM answers the question of who this product is for: your parents and their 10-year-old computer.

I was about to say, who has a functional computer with a CD only drive?

Time to take the bold leap to 2005 and make a DVD-Rom. 4.7 gigs of assorted nerdry. Boom.

davejames February 24 2013 04:39 AM

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It worked in my DVD drive. And I think any optical drive will do actually.

Whatever the case, it's certainly a whole lot faster and smoother than the glitchy old Interactive Technical Manual.


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