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oswater February 5 2013 07:19 AM

Star Trip: The ...What? Generation
 
Hello everybody, my name is Dardan. A few friends and I put together a short parody film of Star Trek: The Next Generation. It starts off as kind of a tongue-in-cheek jokey thing, but becomes it's own sort of strange fun mess.
I didn't know this place existed, another forum referred me to here. I'm very, very glad to have found this place.
Warning: Coarse Language.
Anywho, here's the link:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_pm0RpH0hc
I hope you guys enjoy it!
Also, if you do enjoy it please share it with your friends. We just want to make as many people laugh as we can.
Thanks for watching.

Maurice February 5 2013 07:39 AM

Re: Star Trip: The ...What? Generation
 
A bit much on the four-letter wordage.

Barbreader February 5 2013 08:29 AM

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I've added your film to Star Trek Restricted due to language. See http://startrekrestricted.blogspot.c...11/post-5.html , under F.

oswater February 5 2013 08:42 AM

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Maurice wrote: (Post 7641190)
A bit much on the four-letter wordage.

Added a warning. Hoped not to offend.

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Barbreader wrote: (Post 7641322)
I've added your film to Star Trek Restricted due to language. See http://startrekrestricted.blogspot.c...11/post-5.html , under F.

Thank you!

WalkerBait February 5 2013 03:59 PM

Re: Star Trip: The ...What? Generation
 
I little heavy (okay a lot heavy) on the gay stereotypes. Which *may* have been funny in 1988. Not so much in 2013.

oswater February 6 2013 09:24 PM

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Trekker4747 wrote: (Post 7642360)
I little heavy (okay a lot heavy) on the gay stereotypes. Which *may* have been funny in 1988. Not so much in 2013.

Is it because the movie is designed with a Vaudevillian style?
Is it because the characters discuss things like sex, desire and attraction?
Is it because Troy, a male playing a female character, is feminine?
Or is it because of the 'curing homosexuality' joke in the first act?

Either way you slice it, only one of the characters is written as a homosexual. Vaudeville is a style that's brightly colored and strange on purpose. Watch any Marx Bros film or John Waters movie and you'll see what I'm talking about. The characters discuss things like sex and desire because that's relevant to what the villain of the story does. He lives off peoples desires.
Troy is feminine because HE is still based off his female character. A man can act feminine without being gay.
Oh and that 'curing gayness' joke was written by a gay man.
So honestly, I think you don't even know what you're offended about.
I would love for you to watch the video again and I have no hard feelings. The last thing I want is for somebody to imply I'm some sort of bigot.

Captain Atkin February 6 2013 11:37 PM

Re: Star Trip: The ...What? Generation
 
I thought that was pretty damn funny. As for the "cure gayness" joke... lets face it... how often did we ever see gay people (from Earth) represented on TNG? The fact that a gay person wrote that joke in the early 90s doesn't surprise me in the least. Sure, some of the humor in this video might seem dated now, but that is what makes it so much fun to me.

The only thing that I felt was missing in this video was music during the acting scenes. I think adding some cheesey music to the film would add to the humor. All in all though, this was an enjoyable little film. Strange as hell, but enjoyable ;)

boobatuba February 7 2013 07:57 AM

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oswater wrote: (Post 7649032)
Oh and that 'curing gayness' joke was written by a gay man.
So honestly, I think you don't even know what you're offended about.

Wow. So if a homosexual says it, it can't possibly be offensive? Just...wow.

A note about vaudeville...it was popular in the first 1/3 of the 20th century. It was INCREDIBLY offensive to minorities, and that was the point. So, I don't understand why you would be surprised that people are offended if you claim to write in a "vaudevillian style."

My problem with the video is that I just don't think the jokes are very funny. I don't find talking about "white girl pussy" terribly clever. I find it very juvenile with a sort of "tee-hee" flavor. Not my cup of tea, but also just my opinion.

Maurice February 7 2013 07:59 AM

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oswater wrote: (Post 7649032)
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Trekker4747 wrote: (Post 7642360)
I little heavy (okay a lot heavy) on the gay stereotypes. Which *may* have been funny in 1988. Not so much in 2013.

Is it because the movie is designed with a Vaudevillian style?
Is it because the characters discuss things like sex, desire and attraction?
Is it because Troy, a male playing a female character, is feminine?
Or is it because of the 'curing homosexuality' joke in the first act?

Either way you slice it, only one of the characters is written as a homosexual. Vaudeville is a style that's brightly colored and strange on purpose. Watch any Marx Bros film or John Waters movie and you'll see what I'm talking about. The characters discuss things like sex and desire because that's relevant to what the villain of the story does. He lives off peoples desires.
Troy is feminine because HE is still based off his female character. A man can act feminine without being gay.
Oh and that 'curing gayness' joke was written by a gay man.
So honestly, I think you don't even know what you're offended about.
I would love for you to watch the video again and I have no hard feelings. The last thing I want is for somebody to imply I'm some sort of bigot.

Just because the something wasn't intended to be offensive doesn't mean that it can't be seen as offensive. Lots of gay people engage in gay stereotyping, which doesn't make it not a stereotype. Troy lisps and minces...your classic portrayal of a mincing queen. Some people might find that dated or offensive.

oswater February 7 2013 08:28 AM

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Captain Atkin wrote: (Post 7649734)
I thought that was pretty damn funny. As for the "cure gayness" joke... lets face it... how often did we ever see gay people (from Earth) represented on TNG? The fact that a gay person wrote that joke in the early 90s doesn't surprise me in the least. Sure, some of the humor in this video might seem dated now, but that is what makes it so much fun to me.

The only thing that I felt was missing in this video was music during the acting scenes. I think adding some cheesey music to the film would add to the humor. All in all though, this was an enjoyable little film. Strange as hell, but enjoyable ;)

Thank you for watching, and I completely agree. More music would really fill out the atmosphere.
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boobatuba wrote: (Post 7651345)
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oswater wrote: (Post 7649032)
Oh and that 'curing gayness' joke was written by a gay man.
So honestly, I think you don't even know what you're offended about.

Wow. So if a homosexual says it, it can't possibly be offensive? Just...wow.

The argument wasn't that a gay man has magic anti-offensive armor on, it was that it portrayed gay stereotypes. A gay stereotype needs to come from a place of ignorance, which is was not.
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A note about vaudeville...it was popular in the first 1/3 of the 20th century. It was INCREDIBLY offensive to minorities, and that was the point. So, I don't understand why you would be surprised that people are offended if you claim to write in a "vaudevillian style."
So were films, music, stage and popular culture in the early 20th century. Modern vaudeville is not. It was adopted by people like Conan O'Brien and John Waters to celebrate things like strangeness and outlandish behavior. So your point is completely moot.
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My problem with the video is that I just don't think the jokes are very funny. I don't find talking about "white girl pussy" terribly clever. I find it very juvenile with a sort of "tee-hee" flavor. Not my cup of tea, but also just my opinion.
Completely fair. Glad you watched it.

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Just because the something wasn't intended to be offensive doesn't mean that it can't be seen as offensive.
And sometimes a tool is also a weapon. Again, didn't mean to offend. But if you laugh, then have a great a time. If you don't, maybe next time I'll make something more up your alley.

Admiral Buzzkill February 8 2013 12:40 AM

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Yeah.

You don't get a "next time," any more than I'd waste time on another Uwe Boll movie. That's the consequence of doing something really poorly.

oswater February 8 2013 04:06 AM

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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 7654546)
Yeah.

You don't get a "next time," any more than I'd waste time on another Uwe Boll movie. That's the consequence of doing something really poorly.

Thanks for giving it a shot!
But considering Uwe Boll had directed dozens of movies and has made millions of dollars, it means your time isn't very valuable. So I guess my "consequence" is having to deal with you.

Fearless February 8 2013 05:30 AM

Re: Star Trip: The ...What? Generation
 
I thought it was great! :bolian:

ETA: Fun, kinda In Living Color(No Offense) but I enjoyed that show. :D

Maurice February 8 2013 06:20 AM

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oswater wrote: (Post 7655200)
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My Name Is Legion wrote: (Post 7654546)
Yeah.

You don't get a "next time," any more than I'd waste time on another Uwe Boll movie. That's the consequence of doing something really poorly.

Thanks for giving it a shot!
But considering Uwe Boll had directed dozens of movies and has made millions of dollars, it means your time isn't very valuable. So I guess my "consequence" is having to deal with you.

A gracious artist accepts that not everyone likes his or her work and doesn't feel the need to snipe the people who don't. Some people hate the music videos I've directed, and, you know what, that's fine. If they think my work isn't worth the time even after watching for 15 seconds, that's fine too.

Fearless February 8 2013 06:50 AM

Re: Star Trip: The ...What? Generation
 
There is a difference in constructive criticism and someone just shooting off at the mouth.

ETA: I don't have a dog in this fight but I enjoyed what the film makers did. :shrug:


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