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Bounty January 27 2013 09:46 PM

Oberth deckplans
 
Hey all,

I'm not sure if this should be here or in Trek Tech so mods, feel free to move this if I messed up.

I was wondering if anyone can point me to deck plans of the Oberth class. I know there used to be a Stategic Designs set for sale but that site's now gone.

If anyone knows of a set, preferably one that's free or not too expensive, preferably digital, I'd be very much obliged.

Klaus January 27 2013 10:14 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
These are the ones from the website referenced at the top of this forum...

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sd-oberth.php

Bounty January 27 2013 10:38 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
Thanks, but the links to the actual deckplans have been removed.

Klaus January 27 2013 10:40 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
:(

Bounty January 27 2013 11:28 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
Found some!

http://www.coldnorth.com/owen/game/s...ips/oberth.htm

It's an old RPG page but they'll do fine.

Bell'Orso January 27 2013 11:59 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
[EDIT: Sorry, the TrekBBS cannot be used to advise on how to steal copyrighted materials - post deleted. - Ptrope]

sojourner January 28 2013 12:53 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
^No, don't do that. It's called stealing.

QuinnTV January 28 2013 01:57 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
Quote:

sojourner wrote: (Post 7601041)
^No, don't do that. It's called stealing.

No, it's called accessing pictures on an open, unprotected, public directory. The thumbnails are not down-scaled versions of the full prints. There are no security measures being circumvented. (The lack of a direct link isn't one.) I've looked at some of the coding for that website and there is a distinct difference between the naming of the full sized jpgs and the thumbnails. This has been the case for a long time; I remember checking this out about 2 years ago. It cannot be said that the operator of the page has no idea that the full sized pictures are available to the public. They were actively put there.

This topic has come up before and hit with the mod hammer. It likely will again, but let's be honest about what's going on here, at least. Boot these posts, keep it an open secret and let it be a "wink wink, those prints are unavailable" thing, but let's not get into accusing people of theft.

Finn January 28 2013 02:15 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
^Sojourner's playing around...

sojourner January 28 2013 04:47 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
^Actually, no, I'm not. Just because someone leaves they're front door open does not give you the right to take things out of their house.

largo January 28 2013 07:08 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
but if they leave things out on the front lawn, are you wrong for taking a photo of them?

Albertese January 28 2013 08:06 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
Hmm... seems like we're about to be dealing with the sticky wicket of 20th Century Intellectual Property Law in a 21st Century world. This really needs to be ironed out...

--Alex

Bell'Orso January 28 2013 09:19 AM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
Yeah, last time someone asked about deckplans from SD on here it seemed OK to point out that workaround when someone else did, but now it isn't. Oh well, sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes.

The Librarian January 28 2013 06:11 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
I found a set on DeviantArt, although it's for a 'refit' 24th century version. There are a few bits that were a little wonky, too, although I did like that it had stairs, which automatically puts it above 90% of deck plans in my opinion, particularly for smaller ships.

Ptrope January 28 2013 07:46 PM

Re: Oberth deckplans
 
Quote:

Bell'Orso wrote: (Post 7602634)
Yeah, last time someone asked about deckplans from SD on here it seemed OK to point out that workaround when someone else did, but now it isn't. Oh well, sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes.

Sorry, Bell'Orso - it's never been OK. The BBS is pretty strict about neither promoting nor enabling the violation of IP, whether it's Paramount or any other creator. Creating fan art and items is reasonably-well accepted, even though one could probably make the argument that a lot of it probably violates copyrights in some way, but when it comes to things like sites that offer items for sale, or even ones that don't but it's something that's not out there for access to the public, it's pretty much zero tolerance for circumventing the external site's rules.

And now we're all better-informed and all on the same page, right, guys? ;)


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