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Flying Spaghetti Monster January 24 2013 06:55 AM

[SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
Latest rumor based on the comic and other tidbits of evidence:
Link

Kruezerman January 24 2013 07:12 AM

[SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
That didn't take long.

EDIT: Actually, you know what? That took longer than I thought. I figured something like this would be up the minute that preview came out.

Flying Spaghetti Monster January 24 2013 07:19 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
I wonder where that photo of Peter Weller came from?

YARN January 24 2013 08:13 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
So when would he have been in Command? Or would it be, as the article speculates, that he was captain of another Enterprise?

M'Sharak January 24 2013 08:32 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
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Flagrant Spoiler Monster wrote: (Post 7582798)
Latest rumor based on the comic and other tidbits of evidence:
Link

If the article title makes a point of leaving the question unanswered, and the article carefully teases the question again, then gives a prominent "*Warning: Potential Spoilers Ahead. Tread Carefully!*" advisory before saying more, do you proceed to reveal the spoiler in the thread title, therefore making it potentially visible to all on the TrekBBS main index and on the TrekToday sidebar?

No, no - out of courtesy to your fellow posters who may wish to remain unspoiled, you do not do that. Instead, you place a spoiler warning in the thread title and you give others the option to look or to not look. That is what you do, and I have fixed it for you.

Oso Blanco January 24 2013 09:40 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
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YARN wrote: (Post 7582942)
So when would he have been in Command? Or would it be, as the article speculates, that he was captain of another Enterprise?

He could have been in charge of the Enterprise during her construction, before he gave Pike the keys.

Or he could be from the Prime Universe ... or the Mirror Universe. Unlikely, but not impossible!

Tosk January 24 2013 09:49 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
Spoilers, but that goes without saying considering the thread title...

My guess is that April is not in the film. Bad Robot love the obfuscation game, so I think it's all just part of the plan.

Flying Spaghetti Monster January 24 2013 09:53 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
Quote:

M'Sharak wrote: (Post 7582966)
Quote:

Flagrant Spoiler Monster wrote: (Post 7582798)
Latest rumor based on the comic and other tidbits of evidence:
Link

If the article title makes a point of leaving the question unanswered, and the article carefully teases the question again, then gives a prominent "*Warning: Potential Spoilers Ahead. Tread Carefully!*" advisory before saying more, do you proceed to reveal the spoiler in the thread title, therefore making it potentially visible to all on the TrekBBS main index and on the TrekToday sidebar?

No, no - out of courtesy to your fellow posters who may wish to remain unspoiled, you do not do that. Instead, you place a spoiler warning in the thread title and you give others the option to look or to not look. That is what you do, and I have fixed it for you.

My apologies

Oso Blanco January 24 2013 09:56 AM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
Quote:

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote: (Post 7582870)
I wonder where that photo of Peter Weller came from?

It's from the movie "Screamers" (1995).

ralph January 24 2013 02:17 PM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
My question: Is Robert April canon? Could Orci be lying about Weller´s characther?

King Daniel Into Darkness January 24 2013 02:59 PM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
He's only ever appeared in the animated episode "The Counter-clock incident"

And considering Spock's backstory in the last movie was so heavily based on the animated episode "Yesteryear" I'd say that makes them canon. Or at least, as canon as any other series ... they only vaguely fit together with a lot of loud coughing and willing suspension of disbelief.

Admiral Buzzkill January 24 2013 03:11 PM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
All this has been discussed in another topic here for days.

Brutal Strudel January 24 2013 04:05 PM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
Maybe this film will establish something I understand Paramount nixed in the first film: that Pine's Enterprise is in no way, shape or form Shatner's Enterprise. I seem to recall that the Kelvin was originally supposed to be the Constitution Class E were familiar with. So maybe that's the ship April commanded.

Franklin January 24 2013 04:23 PM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
If you go by "on screen only" as canon, then certain other things are (or were) canon only by convention.
-- Kirk being from Iowa was held as convention, but not canon until Kirk said so in TVH.
-- The Enterprise being built in 2245 (in TOS) is convention, but it's actually never appeared on screen to become "official" canon. (Indeed the only reference to its age is in TSFS, where it's said to be a 20 year old ship, which raised cries because that's too young to make sense.)
-- The character in question here is conventionally canon, but he could still be tweaked to be whatever anyone wanted him to be if he is finally granted that precious screen time. Including his age and being the captain of a previous Enterprise. So, I'd just go with it.

Or most likely, it's not him at all. Or, it's Weller's character, and he's a hero in the movie, not the villain. Every time we think we know more, we really have only more to speculate on.

Admiral Buzzkill January 24 2013 04:42 PM

Re: [SPOILER?] to be in the film?
 
Quote:

Brutal Strudel wrote: (Post 7583875)
Maybe this film will establish something I understand Paramount nixed in the first film: that Pine's Enterprise is in no way, shape or form Shatner's Enterprise. I seem to recall that the Kelvin was originally supposed to be the Constitution Class E were familiar with. So maybe that's the ship April commanded.

Yeah, they were going to blow up April/Pike/oldKirk's ship at the beginning, and the studio folks said "we're not blowing up any Enterprise in this movie."


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