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ArcherNX01 January 22 2013 09:42 AM

William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
I am reading a book about the history of Star Trek at the moment. In the days of TOS in order to calm tensions between Nimoy and Shatner TPTB created a "Favoured Nations" clause in their contracts which basically means that whatever one of them gets the other one has to get the same.

This proceeded to the TOS movies and is the reason Shatner directed Star Trev V.

So does that mean we need to see Shatner in one of these new movies?

King Daniel Into Darkness January 22 2013 11:15 AM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
A part was written for Shatner at the end of the last movie, but he wasn't interested in participating.

You can read it at the end of the early script available here: http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Trek.html
(just search "Shatner" to skip to his bit)

Franklin January 22 2013 03:33 PM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
That's the first time I ever read that. I'd always thought it was Spock Prime who was supposed to be listening whistfully to Kirk Prime's holo-card as he watched Kirk being given command of the Enterprise from afar.

Can anyone imagine the discussions on this board about the rightness or wrongness of it if Spock Prime really had given that card to Spock to play?

Scrolling down the script, there are some interesting lines in Alternate Scene D that the writers wrote for the directer to intersperse throughout the movie as he saw fit.

King Daniel Into Darkness January 22 2013 04:10 PM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
Most fascinating for me is that Spock Prime intentionally opens a second black hole to go back in time, with the intention of saving Romulus. The only allusion to the movie being set in an alternate reality is one of the answers during Spock's schooling - "anything that can happen does happen, in equal and parallel universes"

Therin of Andor January 23 2013 01:20 AM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
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Franklin wrote: (Post 7573246)
That's the first time I ever read that.

The scene is also restored to IDW's comic adaptation of the movie.

Admiral Buzzkill January 23 2013 03:26 AM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
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ArcherNX01 wrote: (Post 7572538)
I am reading a book about the history of Star Trek at the moment. In the days of TOS in order to calm tensions between Nimoy and Shatner TPTB created a "Favoured Nations" clause in their contracts which basically means that whatever one of them gets the other one has to get the same.

This proceeded to the TOS movies and is the reason Shatner directed Star Trev V.

So does that mean we need to see Shatner in one of these new movies?

No.

The "favored nations" thing was something they used to negotiate parity in their contracts for the Star Trek movies. If Paramount had declined, for example, to let Shatner direct Star Trek 5 all the Shat could have done would have been refuse to participate in the project. There's no way he could extort anything from the studio beyond that.

Just because Abrams hired Nimoy to appear in a movie doesn't entitle Shatner to a job in another.

Saul January 23 2013 08:44 AM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
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Therin of Andor wrote: (Post 7576249)
Quote:

Franklin wrote: (Post 7573246)
That's the first time I ever read that.

The scene is also restored to IDW's comic adaptation of the movie.

Thanks for that info! I had read reviews stating it was not included.

Anji January 24 2013 03:42 AM

Re: William Shatner in one of the new films?
 
Shatner in the next film. Not likely.

First, he always wants too much money for a cameo.
Second, he's always difficult to work with (time constraints and creative control).

I don't recall any contracts stating that what Nimoy got Shatner also did. I think the Shat just threw enough temper tantrums to get his way and left the lawyers out of it.


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