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JirinPanthosa January 18 2013 11:38 PM

Where would Voyager be if...
 
What would have happened to Voyager if there didn't just happen to be exactly one decent person in every group of bad guys?

Same question applies to Enterprise.

Ho Ho Homeier January 19 2013 12:20 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Utterly destroyed.

I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however.

Brit January 19 2013 12:21 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Quote:

JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 7555999)
What would have happened to Voyager if there didn't just happen to be exactly one decent person in every group of bad guys?

Same question applies to Enterprise.

Make their own decent person, just like they did in Scorpion.

tighr January 19 2013 01:56 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
If it weren't for Denara Pel, the Vidiians would probably have harvested Voyager completely. Ironically wouldn't have mattered, since the Think Tank cured Phage 3 years later anyway.

Guy Gardener January 19 2013 02:42 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Quote:

Melakon wrote: (Post 7556164)
Utterly destroyed.

I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however.

Kar.

lurok January 19 2013 06:13 PM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Ah, teenage angst. So handy.

Ho Ho Homeier January 19 2013 06:39 PM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Quote:

Guy Gardener wrote: (Post 7557169)
Quote:

Melakon wrote: (Post 7556164)
Utterly destroyed.

I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however.

Kar.

Yeah he's the only one though, and didn't have any influence with the sects.

It was nice seeing Aron do something else, but he still seemed like Nog with hair.

rramarr February 15 2013 07:14 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
How do you define decent and who are the examples?

teacake February 15 2013 07:17 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
They are usually dweebish, well meaning, often shorter than the bad guys. They take Our Heroes aside and confess to their doubts over whatever the hegemony is compelling their people to do. Suddenly BAM they have switched sides and with their tremulous assistance Our Heroes triumph. Often they die directly after that, but not always.

Jeri February 15 2013 04:05 PM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Quote:

"Look, son. My starship is only a few light years away."
"I am not your son, Federation. I am your executioner!"
- Chakotay and Kar
Chakotay and moral dilemmas was like Kirk and computers; it was his talent.

Voy: Initiations at Memory Alpha

Lance February 15 2013 07:34 PM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
I've watched enough episodes of T.J. Hooker to know that in every single gang of evil, ruthless, irredeemable bastards, there's always one guy whose just fallen in with the wrong crowd and is happy to turncoat if it'll get him back on the path to redemption. Always. And in real-life too, probably. Just gotta find that dude.

Would Bill Shatner lie to me? :cool:

Udat February 16 2013 08:02 PM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
^ Yes he would, for 20 bucks.

Star Trek, is about Redemption, no?!

Guy Gardener February 16 2013 10:41 PM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Suder wasn't allowed redemption.

Suder "I invented flowers! I can double the ships food supply! I want to be of value to you Captain Janeway!"

Kathy "Shut up and rot your filthy Maquis Son of a bitch."

teacake February 18 2013 03:13 AM

Re: Where would Voyager be if...
 
Suder was way too creepy to have around doing useful things.


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