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Ood Sigma January 14 2013 09:33 PM

Recommend a good RPG?
 
I'm about to start Final Fantasy XIII-2 but I'm already thinking about the next game I'd like to start for my XBox 360. I really like RPGs and I usually lean toward the JRPG style. I prefer some sort of turn-based, although ATB combat is fine. I'll try to go through the RPGs I have played (so you'll know not to recommend those) and describe what I like and what I didn't:

Eternal Sonata
This game was exactly what I was looking for. Great combat system; fun characters and a good plot.

Dragon Age: Origins
It was... OK, I guess. I was expecting more, somehow. Combat was kind of convoluted and I found it difficult to use abilities/cast spells. Storyline was OK.

Star Ocean: The Last Hope
I also enjoyed this one. Combat was sort of real-time but the plot was fun and the characters grew on you. Liked the achievements system and the side quests.

Final Fantasy XIII
I really enjoyed this mostly for the combat system. Finally I don't have to make the small decisions and can just focus on the paradigm my party is in. I thought that was a brilliant move. Yes, it's linear - I don't mind linear.

Mass Effect Trilogy
This is where I departed from my comfort zone in terms of combat. I nearly gave up on ME1 because the controls sucked so bad, but the story kept me going. ME2 and 3 improved the combat but took away the RPG-ness. As much as I love the universe, and I'm totally on board for ME4, it would take some convincing for me to try another shooter/RPG.

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
I gave up on this one 15 minutes in when I was killed by a sewer rat in the opening dungeon because I couldn't see the thing or swing my weapon at it. The control scheme was completely unusable for me.

Fable II
Enjoyable for the most part but it really felt more like a Zelda style adventure than an RPG. Combat was ridiculously easy, but... it was way too non-linear for me. I appreciate an open world but it felt like there was too much to do so I didn't want to do any of it.

RPGs for other systems I totally loved
.hack (PS2)
Final Fantasy X & X-2 (PS2)
Legend of Legaia (PS1)
Legaia 2: Duel Saga (PS2)
Pretty much any Wild Arms game

RPGs for other systems I didn't care for
Chrono Cross (PS1)
Final Fantasy XII (PS2)

Sheep January 14 2013 10:06 PM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
Perhaps Tales of Vesperia? That's my favorite JRPG for the Xbox 360.

I'm currently playing through the Witcher 2 which IMO is fantastic. I'm not sure if it'd be up your alley given the preferences you listed above, but that might be another one to look into if you haven't played the PC version.

CorporalClegg January 14 2013 10:11 PM

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I've never owned a 360, so I sure which games it has. But for starters, there's always the other games in the Western series you mentioned: Fable III, Skyrim, The other Dragon Age games, etc. There's also Fallout III.

If you're looking for something more Japanese, I've heard good things about Magna Carta II. Haven't played it myself.

Also, I know you'd like to stay away from action, but you could try whatever Tales game has a 360 version (Vesperia?). They're in a league of their own. The stories are usually pretty good too--mostly because the character design is top-notch.

Sadly though, if you're looking for good traditional JRPGs, you either need to look to older gen consoles or hand-helds.

Kegg January 14 2013 10:13 PM

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I'm mostly a WRPG gamer who's quite comfortable with live combat (although also wasn't comfortable with the first Mass Effect's combat, I still think that was a game that didn't know what it wanted to be mechanically, with the MAKO missions just being the tip of the iceberg). But keeping that in mind - and that you enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins and the Mass Effect Trilogy - I am going to make the outstandingly original recommendation of both Star Wars: The Knights of the Old Republic games.

The combat is kind of quasi-real time in that you can pause it at any time and assign commands when paused, although it's relatively more straightforward IMHO than Dragon Age and it handles better than the first Mass Effect because it's not really trying to be a shooter with cover mechanics on top of that. But past that both KOTOR games are some of the best story material the Star Wars franchise has done in years, with surprising twists, some rich characterisation and suitably epic plots... while neither game is really that long.

The first KOTOR gets all the love but the second KOTOR is one of my favourite RPGs, if not my favourite RPG period. Unfortunately it suffered a rushed production schedule and a lot of material was cut from the final release. It pretty much has to be played with the Sith Lord Restored Content mod*, which has painstakingly fixed bugs and added back whatever cut content it was able to. Even with that caveat - or even without that mod - they're just two great games.

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Sheep wrote: (Post 7534735)
I'm currently playing through the Witcher 2 which IMO is fantastic.

I hear that's good. I'm still trudging through the Witcher, which is... well it's okay.


*Consequently it is admittedly ideal to get this game at least for PC. Either one is available pretty cheaply from Steam.

CorporalClegg January 14 2013 10:34 PM

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Kegg wrote: (Post 7534777)
The first KOTOR gets all the love but the second KOTOR is one of my favourite RPGs, if not my favourite RPG period. Unfortunately it suffered a rushed production schedule and a lot of material was cut from the final release. It pretty much has to be played with the Sith Lord Restored Content mod*, which has painstakingly fixed bugs and added back whatever cut content it was able to. Even with that caveat - or even without that mod - they're just two great games.

Hey, I'm a proud member or the Exile>>>Revan club. :techman:

So much so, that Drew Karpyshyn is now atop my list-of-enemies. [/SheldonCooper] :lol:

Robert Maxwell January 14 2013 10:50 PM

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Some games I would recommend that are either RPGs or have RPG elements:

Deus Ex: Human Revolution -- Great story, great atmosphere, great gameplay, with a few minor flaws and bugs. Can be had for rather cheap now on the 360, I think, although the PC version is superior.

BioShock -- The first one is a modern classic. Again, great story, great atmosphere, great gameplay. Get it.

Legend of Grimrock -- This is a roguelike in the mold of the old Eye of the Beholder/Dungeon Master type games, but with modern graphics. Very thin on story, but lots of fun and varied gameplay.

Duke Nukem Forever -- Like the others, great atmosphere, great story, great ga... hahahaha, just kidding! Not as terrible as its reputation would have you believe, but probably not worth your time.

Fallout 3/New Vegas -- If you didn't like Oblivion, you may not like this, unless you are more comfortable with post-apocalyptic settings. But really, the gameplay style is very much in the Elder Scrolls mold (given that it's made by the same company.)

Borderlands -- An action RPG/FPS hybrid, but with a cool atmosphere and Diablo-like loot drops. It's fun. There's also a sequel.

Torchlight series -- If you liked the Diablo games, you would probably like this.

Sacred series -- Ditto.

I'll let you know if I think of any more. Many of these are PC games, but I believe most are also available on the 360.

Kegg January 14 2013 11:00 PM

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CorporalClegg wrote: (Post 7534921)
So much so, that Drew Karpyshyn is now atop my list-of-enemies.

Oh don't get me started on what BioWare did with the Jedi Exile.

Ah well. I'll always have KOTOR2, and I swear I'm going to do another playthrough sometime this year.
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Robert Maxwell wrote: (Post 7535002)
Fallout 3/New Vegas -- If you didn't like Oblivion, you may not like this, unless you are more comfortable with post-apocalyptic settings. But really, the gameplay style is very much in the Elder Scrolls mold (given that it's made by the same company.)

Pedantic correction: Fallout 3 is made by the same company as the Elder Scrolls series. New Vegas, while sharing the engine and mechanics, is made by Obsidian Entertainment (also of KOTOR2 and the upcoming Project Eternity fame)... and thus largely made by people responsible for the original Fallout games from Black Isle.

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Torchlight series -- If you liked the Diablo games, you would probably like this.
While Torchlight is fine, I'd suggest skipping it to get right to Torchlight 2 because that's the one with coop. Unless you're in this primarily for the single player experience, which Torchlight provides pretty well.

iguana_tonante January 14 2013 11:17 PM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
I thought this was going to be about paper-and-pencil RPG. :(

Robert Maxwell January 15 2013 12:20 AM

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Kegg wrote: (Post 7535089)
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Robert Maxwell wrote: (Post 7535002)
Fallout 3/New Vegas -- If you didn't like Oblivion, you may not like this, unless you are more comfortable with post-apocalyptic settings. But really, the gameplay style is very much in the Elder Scrolls mold (given that it's made by the same company.)

Pedantic correction: Fallout 3 is made by the same company as the Elder Scrolls series. New Vegas, while sharing the engine and mechanics, is made by Obsidian Entertainment (also of KOTOR2 and the upcoming Project Eternity fame)... and thus largely made by people responsible for the original Fallout games from Black Isle.

I forgot about that! But you're right. :)

Sephiroth January 15 2013 12:37 AM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
what? no Blue Dragon love in here?

Owain Taggart January 15 2013 08:05 AM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
I think that you'd very much like Anachronox if you haven't already played it. It's a JRPG in style made by Tom Hall when he was at Ion Storm, and it's pretty much a sendup to JRPGs. The amazing thing is that while it was made using a highly modified Quake 2 engine, you could hardly tell it was just by looking at it since they did so much to it. It's on GOG:

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/anachronox

clint g January 15 2013 12:01 PM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
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Ood Sigma January 15 2013 04:23 PM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
Thanks guys. I took a look at some reviews on ign.com of the games that were recommended. Some weren't for XBox 360. I don't use my PC for gaming; I'm strictly a console gamer.

Of the suggestions, Tales of Vesperia and Blue Dragon looked to be the most up my alley. It's sad that there are so few really great traditional RPGs in this generation. Maybe I should bust out my PS2 and find some good classics.

USS Einstein January 15 2013 04:32 PM

Re: Recommend a good RPG?
 
The best RPG series, really, is the Shin Megami Tensei series, as you may have heard.

Try:

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4

- Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 1

- Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2

- Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey

- Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne

- Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 1

- Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2

- Catherine

Skywalker January 15 2013 06:41 PM

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iguana_tonante wrote: (Post 7535215)
I thought this was going to be about paper-and-pencil RPG. :(

It's a dying art, alas. :(

My friends and I are currently rocking a Pathfinder game. It's the first time I've played a campaign in that setting, but I'm really enjoying it. I much prefer their expansion on the old D&D 3.5 system over D&D's current Fourth Edition.


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