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Captain McBain December 31 2012 02:26 PM

Changelings
 
Do changelings have unlimited lifespans? Do they eventually die of old age?

R. Star December 31 2012 02:47 PM

Re: Changelings
 
Unknown. Odo survived for hundreds of years in Children of Time without any seeming ill effect. Why's this on the Voyager board?

at Quark's December 31 2012 02:47 PM

Re: Changelings
 
I'm not entirely sure but there's this line from the female founder to Odo (DS9 - favour the bold):

You are a changeling, you are timeless!. Which does suggest to me they could very well be.

Also, why is this in the voyager forum ?

Tosk December 31 2012 03:46 PM

Re: Changelings
 
Maybe not immortal, but certainly damn near it compared to human lifespans.

Why is this on the Voyager board? ;)

Captain McBain December 31 2012 04:05 PM

Re: Changelings
 
I'm sorry. I made a mistake. Maybe I'm oversimplifying this, but it seems that the cells which comprise a changeling would degrade over time. I don't know, maybe not.

Finn December 31 2012 04:49 PM

Re: Changelings
 
^ Who said they are made of cells?

Tosk December 31 2012 05:23 PM

Re: Changelings
 
And even if they are, why assume they would degrade?

Captain McBain December 31 2012 05:36 PM

Re: Changelings
 
Quote:

Finngle Bells wrote: (Post 7468609)
^ Who said they are made of cells?

Well, it seems likely that they're made up of something. And unless Odo's people can somehow overcome the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, it'd seem that they'd eventually break down, even if it took eons.

R. Star December 31 2012 07:57 PM

Re: Changelings
 
I dunno, it's quite possible the the body functions that break down in us "solids" could be rejuvenated just by the process of shapeshifting itself.

And why is this on the Voy-- okay, okay the horse is dead, we forgive you! :)

Guy Gardener January 1 2013 07:37 AM

Re: Changelings
 
Are the same changlings always made from the same goo?

Odo without access to the link would be confined to the same Goo until he dies.

He calls sleeping "regenerating"?

What if he really is replacing all the cell loss from he day, he could lose and gain 5 pounds of goo every week?

It's just a question of goo depredation as he gets older.

teacake January 1 2013 08:54 AM

Re: Changelings
 
Didn't Bashir take some goo away and this stressed him out? He wanted it all back. So I'm thinking it doesn't replenish if any is lost.

Guy Gardener January 1 2013 09:13 AM

Re: Changelings
 
In the beginning the changeling baby Odo was raising was growing rapidly.

Maybe the Changelings replace mass by eating their young just like the Doctor has to eat other "sentient" holograms to stay sane.

After all, Odo had a really good reversal of all his health issues that time he ate a baby.

teacake January 1 2013 09:20 AM

Re: Changelings
 
Imagine if they never stopped growing. They could take over the quadrant by swallowing it in bronze goo.

If they do make new changlings and then consume them to replace mass lost through age the ones that were sent away might have been the best off. I'd imagine they would be consuming the infants before they had any real personality or sentience, they were just material that they needed.

Guy Gardener January 1 2013 09:30 AM

Re: Changelings
 
But linked Changelings, are we sure that their personality is specific to the goo they walked into the link with?

No matter how many babies they eat, their fragile child personalities are still in the link either growing up, or pissed and resentful suffering from an arrested development?

Oh.

Is that why they send their kids away out into space?

Just 100 my cheese grating ass.

Maybe a hundred at a time, but it's the only way that they can have fully formed accentuated distinct personalities to bring growth and evolution to the link.

teacake January 1 2013 10:18 AM

Re: Changelings
 
They should have formed a gang and made their own link and returned home to have their vengeance.


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