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Harbinger December 26 2012 05:52 AM

Most Powerful Sci-Fi Civilization
 
Was curious what everyone thinks could be the most powerful sci-fi civilization in science fiction. Let's for a moment forget about "Q" since we know they're omnipotent beings unmatched in Star Trek. Sure, Continuum are powerful but we already know this and we already know they could probably win for being the most powerful.

We have an assortment of ridiculously powerful beings, from Doctor Who's Time Lords and you have things like The Culture, The Foundation, The Forerunners (and maybe even grossly more powerful than them, the Precursors), The Leviathans (who were nearly wiped out by their own machines), The Gree, etc. ad nauseum.

Who do you feel would be able to at least come close, to say, Q and his race? Who is the most technologically, ridiculously powerful race in all of sci-fi?

Davros December 26 2012 05:56 AM

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I might be suspected of bias, but the Daleks are the superior life form in the universe. :)

Nerys Myk December 26 2012 05:59 AM

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They even figured how to go up stairs!!!!!

Harbinger December 26 2012 07:22 AM

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Davros wrote: (Post 7446295)
I might be suspected of bias, but the Daleks are the superior life form in the universe. :)

Well, if we're going by bias I would choose Precursors, even though we don't know anything about them. Heh. :P

But, seeing as how powerful the Forerunners were, it may be safe to say the Precursors are very much god-like. The Forerunners themselves had an empire that spanned millions of planets, built near solar system sized Dyson spheres, could traverse Slipspace accurately and even traveled to other dimensions (and to some degree, time), were able to digitize organic life in large quantities (the Composer), move planetary objects through slipspace and had intergalactic travel, created their own galaxy spanning "VR" (the Domain), built weapons that could destroy organic life on a galactic scale, etc. These guys were serious stuff! Now imagine the one's who came before them who also created them (and humans) and created the one threat that can devour entire galaxies and that's even ridiculously more powerful!

Edit_XYZ December 26 2012 12:57 PM

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The Q, as seen, can create an universe/a reality by snapping his fingers - omnipotent/beyond physical law, etc.

All the forerunner achievements you named are child's play by comparison - and certify that the forerunners were most definitely bound by physical law.

Not to mention, none of these ancient "god-like" civilizations were powerful/smart enough to prevent their own extinction. Which is more than enough to destroy any "god-like" mystique.

The Mirrorball Man December 26 2012 02:26 PM

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I believe we're looking for civilizations which don't quite qualify as "Sufficiently Advances Species".

Bob Morton December 26 2012 02:31 PM

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The Humans of the Greater Commonwealth (Peter F. Hamilton) are pretty powerful as they are, but when facing a superior adversary, become even more powerful as they learn from the war with the enemy.

Effective immortality, The Deterrence 'Fleet', Dyson Barrier Shielding, 100+ light year per hour ship speeds. They are not God-like, yet, and could probably be wiped out by a Q, but maybe a way could be found to bind the Q to the physical universe and limit the Magics.

Anyway I really root for the Humans and a positive future, maybe I'm biased.

MacLeod December 26 2012 02:37 PM

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Davros wrote: (Post 7446295)
I might be suspected of bias, but the Daleks are the superior life form in the universe. :)

They might be except for one minor little detail, they seem to keep losing to the Timelords, esp. the one known as The Doctor.

Captain Nebula December 26 2012 03:38 PM

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A galaxy-spanning civilization that can make a planet-destroying laser in a mobile space station the size of a small moon. Although I hear that it's insignificant next to the power of the Force.

Harbinger December 26 2012 08:56 PM

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Edit_XYZ wrote: (Post 7446781)
The Q, as seen, can create an universe/a reality by snapping his fingers - omnipotent/beyond physical law, etc.

All the forerunner achievements you named are child's play by comparison - and certify that the forerunners were most definitely bound by physical law.

Not to mention, none of these ancient "god-like" civilizations were powerful/smart enough to prevent their own extinction. Which is more than enough to destroy any "god-like" mystique.

That's why I wanted to keep "Q" out of this discussion. Heh. We already know him and Q's are grossly powerful. I think I probably wanted to keep more on track with a civilization that started off mortal/corporal and eventually climbed its way to the top. Q were all powerful beings since the beginning, as far as we know.

BTW Edit, yeah the Forerunners got pretty hurt badly, one might say but then there's the Precursors. They are considered Transentient. Nobody knows what happened with them but guesses are they left the galaxy and/or this universe. All we know about them is that they had technology that worked on "neural physics", seeing as how they believed the universe was a living thing and that at least one of them might have become a Gravemind (The Primordial/Timeless One).

Silvercrest December 26 2012 08:58 PM

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I think the Borg meet that definition.

Auralis December 26 2012 11:30 PM

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Perry Rhodan setting, Kosmokrats, Chaotrachs.
They live outside the known multiverse, in a realm that can can't be understand by beings from the multiverse. They can alter the laws of nature, create universes or destroy them. And of course anything simpler then that.

Australis December 27 2012 12:31 AM

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Despite what m'co-named above says, the Culture. Hands down.

P0sitr0nic December 27 2012 01:39 AM

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The Asgardians from Marvel Comics (Thor) spring to mind.

Asbo Zaprudder December 27 2012 09:35 AM

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The XeeLee from Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence, although they were ultimately defeated by the Photino Birds in this universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeelee_Sequence


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