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The Axeman December 19 2012 03:30 PM

Miranda Class v2.0
 
Many moons ago I started doing an updated version of one of my very favourite starship designs, the Miranda class USS Reliant. I did some basic work on the shape and that's about as far as it went before I got sidetracked and forgot about it. I was raking through all my stuff the other day and found it again, and decided it was time to get into gear and get it finished.

To that end I've started throwing on details such as escape pods, thrusters, major windows and the like in preparation for cutting in panel lines, windows and final details. It will probably take some time, I'm rather rusty at this. If anyone has a preferred method of making panels in Lightwave let me know, because there has to be a more accurate way of doing it than I use!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8214/8...4ecb8c2e_z.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8359/8...31e5d2b5_z.jpg
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Dac December 19 2012 03:36 PM

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Its looking cracking, but too my eye it looks an awful lot like Rademaker's Merian Class that was featured in the Ships of the Line Calendar: http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com...d_2012_r06.jpg

Sure, the resemblance is little more than sharing the same overall shape, but it just rings awful close too me :/

The Axeman December 19 2012 03:40 PM

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You had me worried there for a minute until I saw the Merian design. I think its sufficiently different that I needn't worry. Its more angular, longer and flatter than my little effort, not a lot of common ground other than the basic layout of hull & nacelles.

Psion December 19 2012 04:10 PM

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Neat.

A very strong influence from Voyager -- say what you will about the show, the ship was a gorgeous design. To my eye the nacelles look a little too bulky for the ship, but the model is still at an early stage and the ship may yet balance them out. This design also solves the Reliant's missing navigational deflector problem.

Kaiser December 19 2012 04:17 PM

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Good design there :)

The Librarian December 19 2012 04:48 PM

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For the most part I like it, but I'm not a fan of having two big deflectors or having so many cut-in windows. The bridge structure is great, though.

The Axeman December 19 2012 06:03 PM

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Yeah, I wanted a proper deflector on there to address that issue. The secondary one is more fluff though, I was going to make it more like a sensor thing than anything else but we'll see. You're also right about the nacelles being a little bulky, I was aware of it and I may have to change that at a later stage. Nacelles are easy to swap out though, but coming up with a novel design for them that doesn't offend the eyes is a problem.

As for the cut-in windows, I'm ok with them as they make more sense than very heavily sloped windows. I plan to have only a few sloped ones, the inset ones may be about 50% total of all the windows. I certainly don't plan on wallpapering the thing with them like the Galaxy class. The bridge structure was one of the main reasons why the hull section looks like it does, I wanted to work that in for sure.

Starship December 19 2012 06:24 PM

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Looks coold Kenny!
Go ahead! :techman:

sojourner December 19 2012 06:24 PM

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It's a cool design but something kept bugging me about it while I looked at it. I think my problem with it is the knife edge of the "saucer". It just looks too sharp for a federation ship. At least to my eye. That feeling may go away as detail is added that breaks up the edge a bit.

Psion December 19 2012 06:50 PM

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The Axeman wrote: (Post 7420951)
... You're also right about the nacelles being a little bulky, I was aware of it and I may have to change that at a later stage. Nacelles are easy to swap out though, but coming up with a novel design for them that doesn't offend the eyes is a problem....

Ain't that the truth!? And I think the unfortunate tendency has been to over-engineer them. I'm not specifically complaining about your design here, it's tough to make original nacelles that aren't over-complicated. After all, how many different ways are there to carve a cylinder?

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Snowjourner wrote: (Post 7421053)
It's a cool design but something kept bugging me about it while I looked at it. I think my problem with it is the knife edge of the "saucer". It just looks too sharp for a federation ship. At least to my eye. That felling may go away as detail is added that breaks up the edge a bit.

Wow. Wow! I didn't notice that until you mentioned it, but now that you have, it's a bit like that mole on Aunt Martha's nose. Maybe I'm bringing too much baggage from the original along?

No offense intended, Axe! :)

dayxday1000 December 19 2012 06:56 PM

Re: Miranda Class v2.0
 
Slightly off topic, but why is the Reliant design so often referred to as the Miranda Class? Canon or fanon?


Edit: With a little Googling I was able to answer my own question: The name Miranda-class was not mentioned in dialog on-screen, but was devised by the art department of TNG to refer to this design. The name was used on several pieces of on-screen signage referring to these vessels, and is also used by dedicated references such as the Star Trek Encyclopedia. Source: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Miranda_class

The Axeman December 19 2012 10:40 PM

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I never thought of the saucer edge as sharp, it's rounded to avoid the razor sharp edges that give away stuff as being CGI. I try to avoid sharp edges if at all possible for just that reason.

B.J. December 19 2012 11:48 PM

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I think what they mean is they're used to the saucer edge being at least a full deck thick, while this one looks thinner. Personally, I have no problem with it.

Psion December 20 2012 01:53 AM

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Quote:

B.J. wrote: (Post 7422898)
I think what they mean is they're used to the saucer edge being at least a full deck thick, while this one looks thinner. Personally, I have no problem with it.

Yep. Well, that's what I'm talking about. Snowjourner's his own man.

And I won't even say it looks bad so much as it just defies "trek-spectation." The rim is traditionally two decks high, and I'm expecting to see windows along it. There's no reason you can't come along and redefine those "rules", Axeman, you just have to be prepared for dumb jerks like me to come along and question you about it.

Ar-Pharazon December 20 2012 02:32 AM

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This is a nice looking design.

Truer to the Reliant than, say, the Ronin, which is based off the Sovereign design/style, but has the Nebula type pod.


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