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GalacticWierdo December 19 2012 07:51 AM

USS Sagittarius
I will start off by saying that this is by far and away my most favorite designs that I've ever made. I felt like it was so off-the-wall that it deserved its own topic.

Originally designed to serve alongside the USS Sovereign among others, the USS Sagittarius was built as a testbed ship of new technologies. Most prevalent is its purportedly "Failsafe" power distribution grid, with no less than five ways to route power to the warp nacelles in the event of catastrophic damage to the ship. It was designed with two enormous Warp nacelles composed of machinery from six Sovereign nacelles.
To power these oversized motors, the ship has a primary and secondary warp core which operate in tandem to operate all subsystems at consistently full power.
In order to move the ship at Sublight speeds, two impulse engine banks are mounted outboard from the Saucer on two large wings.
The deflector array runs as a large strip down the fore of the engineering section on a sort of "keel" extending downward, as well as a traditional circular array on the engineering section itself.
The ship is equipped with an Regenerative Ablative hull and a conventional deflector array. The ship has mounted Tetryon Cannon arrays instead of the period-typical Phaser Strips, to allow for more extensive use of Ablative armor. Notable interior elements are a distinct lack of decks in most of the Engineering section, with a large interior space devoted to fuel and Armor tanks, as well as Warp Core machinery and shuttle and Fighter hangars. The Bridge is a large open room which is connected to a sort of Promenade running the spine of the saucer and neck.

Despite its oversized Impulse engines, the ship was found to be sluggish at Sublight speeds and much of the experimental machinery frequently failed. The ship's class was never put into production, but the ship survived through the Klingon-Federation war in 2409, during which it reentered service as a science and Command Operations vessel. A second ship of similar design but smaller size was built during this time to be used as a testing platform for experimental appropriated Borg technology such as that which was used to transfigure the Narada in the late 24th century.

Without further ado, here is the design.

Kaiser December 19 2012 04:21 PM

Re: USS Sagittarius
Looks ok just need more views :)

The Axeman December 19 2012 10:41 PM

Re: USS Sagittarius
Looks rather confusing right now, you really need to knock out some other views so people can figure out what's going on.

Avon December 19 2012 11:16 PM

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^ i second that emotion.

it has the potential to be awesome, but its hard to tell right now

GalacticWierdo December 21 2012 06:34 AM

Re: USS Sagittarius
It took me a while, but I finally completed the fore view:
Hope this helps!

The Axeman December 21 2012 10:27 AM

Re: USS Sagittarius
I'll be honest and say its not really to my taste. It smacks of being a kitbash, by which I mean it looks like a normal design that someone has stuck additional bits on that it didn't have in the first place. The huge keels and additional struts and wings make it look rather busy aesthetically, do they serve some purpose?

The keel on the secondary hull might be an interesting addition to a design, but I wouldn't make it that deep on a design this tall and long already. Its quite an elongated, swoopy design of a ship, but you've then added deep keels which work against that look. That's what makes me think of kitbashes, a design that's been reworked by someone else with a different vision. I think you may have overworked this one in ways it didn't need.

Avon December 21 2012 11:06 AM

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i dont mind the bottom sticky-out bit, but the ones on the lower saucer look out of place, like giant skin tags that've grown out someones armpits. also the nacelles seem to point upwards, which is a bit odd.

but otherwise i quite like it, sort of like if the enterprise had been built in the gundam universe.

Finngle Bells December 21 2012 02:20 PM

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I don't care for it. This ship would actually have very little square footage for its size.

GalacticWierdo December 21 2012 09:12 PM

Re: USS Sagittarius
You guys are right, it's why I hadn't made a final version from the side yet, I can't get it too look as good (as I think it looks) from the side. So I tried to fix some of MY personal quibbles with the fore view and here it is:
Made it a bit more chunky and made more of the shapes line up, to make it look less "kitbashy".

Also as a minor side note, the nacelles DO slope. The reason I did this is because primarily my hand drawing rand downward an angle when I drew it, but also because the special effects shots from TOS show the Enterprise flying pitched downward, which I think looks kinda cool.

EDIT: re-updated the drawing.

Kaiser December 21 2012 10:12 PM

Re: USS Sagittarius
Looks cool to me :)

Colonel Midnight December 23 2012 03:40 AM

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*Gertch* Sorry, just a bit too "busy" for my taste.

Not to mention, I keep seeing the 'Scream' mask (from the horror spoof movie series) in the side view. :lol:

Best of luck, though!

JES December 23 2012 06:32 PM

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I know what you mean about how the the Enterprise had her bow plowing forward in the TOS opening. I kind of liked that too. But having the nacelles pitched back at an angle is making it look like the Sagittarius is going to flip over backwards.

NX/NCC-20110 is way to low for a late 24th century vessel, and suggests that she is from the Lost Era/around the same time as the Ambassador class.

If we are to assume that she is from around the same time as the Sovereign class, a registry somewhere from NX-738XX to NX-75XXX would be more appropriate.

The wings supporting the nacelles from the primary hull is an interesting design trait, one which I might want to play around with myself at some point. I like adding little fins to my designs here and there myself. From the front, the circular main deflector sort of gives the vessel an overall appearance reminiscent of something from the Space Battleship Yamato Universe.

I think what you need to do is find ways to better balance your design, better integrate the fins and wings into the hulls, so they don't look like they've been tacked on, but more like they flow out from the hull, and find ways to simplify and sleeken the Sagittarius. She needs to look more like she was carved out of a single shape, rather than a few shapes brought together.

erifah December 28 2012 01:36 AM

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Hello... You've caught something there. Crude, yes, primitive, yes, perhaps even grotesque... yet something inexplicable tells me... that this might be our ship!

GalacticWierdo December 28 2012 09:18 AM

Re: USS Sagittarius
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I'm on vacation right now, so I don't have access to a scanner, but i did make a sketch of a new version of the ship, where the saucer pylons and impulse wings merge together into one continuous shape, and various slopes have been made more similar. The front view is more or less unchanged. I personally think it does look a little more clever this way, but I still need to tweak it some for it to look really good. I really need to play around with a three dimensional version of it to see how everything is layed out. Let me know what you guys think! Especially ideas for changes!

P.S. sorry about the monstrously large picture.

Albertese December 28 2012 04:31 PM

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Please scale down your picture. Having to side-scroll a forum to read a post is a pain in the @$$. This thing displays at more than double the width of my monitor!


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