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Ro_Laren December 9 2012 12:58 PM

How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Glow?
 
What "special effect" did they use to make the eyes of the actors playing Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's eyes "glow" in the episode Where No Man Has Gone Before? I'm guess it is some post-production special-effect vs. the actor's wearing the worlds most painful contacts. FYI, it has been a zillion years since I watched this episode.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...and-Dehner.jpg

lurok December 9 2012 01:19 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Seconded. I've wondered about that as well :)

Tosk December 9 2012 01:20 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
They used contact lenses.

Kirk1980 December 9 2012 04:13 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Not just any contact lenses.... early 1960s ones. Very hot and uncomfortable. They were scleral lenses which allowed the effects department to get a thin sheet of foil between the layers of the lens. A pinhole was poked in them to allow the actors to see.

This had the knockon effect that Lockwood had to tilt his head up in order to see properly, giving him that sorta arrogant look. He wasn't being dramatic, he just couldn't see otherwise!

They were also HIGHLY uncomfortable. Heat built up behind them, driving Lockwood crazy. Kellerman, though, never showed discomfort. Then again, she didn't wear them as much, so who knows.

sbk1234 December 9 2012 06:05 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Well, first they took this spaceship and tried to leave the galaxy...

Dalen Quaice December 9 2012 06:52 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
They also used animation because the contacts didn't work in low light (since they were reflective) -- the scene where Gary is first struck by the barrier on the bridge and his eyes first turn is an example. When the act fades out, his eyes stay illuminated for a little longer before fading out.

jayrath December 9 2012 06:56 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
More to the point, pairs of contact lenses with aluminum foil sandwiched between. Ow!

Garrovick December 10 2012 06:19 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Quote:

Dalen Quaice wrote: (Post 7371823)
They also used animation because the contacts didn't work in low light (since they were reflective) -- the scene where Gary is first struck by the barrier on the bridge and his eyes first turn is an example. When the act fades out, his eyes stay illuminated for a little longer before fading out.

I always kind of figured the bit during the fade-out where all you can see are two glowing eyes was an artistic decision to really emphasize the glowing eyes... it certainly made a big impression on me when I first saw the episode as a kid and I still think it's a very creepy moment.

Sector 7 December 11 2012 04:53 AM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Quote:

Kirk1980 wrote: (Post 7371319)
Not just any contact lenses.... early 1960s ones. Very hot and uncomfortable. They were scleral lenses which allowed the effects department to get a thin sheet of foil between the layers of the lens. A pinhole was poked in them to allow the actors to see.

This had the knockon effect that Lockwood had to tilt his head up in order to see properly, giving him that sorta arrogant look. He wasn't being dramatic, he just couldn't see otherwise!

They were also HIGHLY uncomfortable. Heat built up behind them, driving Lockwood crazy. Kellerman, though, never showed discomfort. Then again, she didn't wear them as much, so who knows.

Thanks, Kirk1980. Like the others, I have always wondered how it was done.:techman:

Admiral Buzzkill December 11 2012 05:31 AM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Kellerman told a funny story about Lockwood screaming and cursing about the lenses.

mos6507 December 11 2012 06:06 AM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
BTW, I hope you know the image posted is horizontally flipped ;)

Oh, and note that the division symbols on the insignia don't match what eventually became the norm in TOS.

Bishop76 December 11 2012 06:10 AM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
They're looking in a mirror in that scene

mos6507 December 11 2012 06:37 AM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Hah. Touche'. Good call. There's a famous shot in the TMP teaser where McCoy's flipped horizontally. These things happened now and then, and maybe I jumped the gun.

MauriceNavidad December 14 2012 05:11 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
Usually a flopped shot is an intentional editorial choice to compensate for a problem with actor eyelines.

Bishop76 December 14 2012 05:20 PM

Re: How Did They Make Gary Mitchell's & Dr. Elizabeth Dehner's Eyes Gl
 
No, seriously, they were looking in a mirror in that scene


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