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AJBlue98 December 7 2012 01:08 AM

Villainous relations? [SPOILERS]
 
It seems to me that Mr. Orci’s comments about the “Benedict Cumberbatch is Gary Mitchell” rumour being off by a single word means nothing. Change the “is,” the “Gary,” or the “Mitchell,” and Mr. Cumberbatch is playing some other character. Insert the word “playing,” and the statement transforms from metaphor to fact.

But I have yet to see anyone here latch onto the extra several seconds of audio in the Japanese trailer, which features extra dialogue and visuals.


And then there's the shot from earlier in the trailer, where Uhura, visibly devastated, clings to Scotty.

So here’s what I'm theorizing: Cumberbatch is Sybok. Yes, yes, Lawrence Luckinbill had pointy ears in STV, and Cumberbatch does not in 2012. But the guy’s also crazy, so I wouldn’t put it past him, in an alternate version of the Trek timeline, for Spock’s half-brother to get an ear job out of … different motivations from Luckinbill’s version of the character.

Either that, or he might just be Kodos the Executioner.

What do you think?

SalvorHardin December 7 2012 01:13 AM

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Actually I've seen some say he's Sybok in the trailer thread.
My opinion? No way.

lurok December 7 2012 01:16 AM

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Hmmm. Choose a character from a Trek film even non-Trek fans have heard of and/or like? Or one from a film even some Trek fans despise?

Tough call.

teacock December 7 2012 01:17 AM

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The hand in the blue uniform is clearly in LLAP position.

RoJoHen December 7 2012 01:18 AM

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Part of me is hoping that the bonus scene from the Japanese trailer isn't even in the movie. It's just JJ and Co. trying to fuck with us.

Enterprise is Great December 7 2012 01:32 AM

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So Sybok cut his eartips off? That's hardcore.

The Creeper December 7 2012 01:32 AM

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I thought we had to keep all comments on the other thread?

Anyway, Sybok wasn't a murderer at all. Violence was contrary to his plan and became upset when his followers became violent.

"Do you realize what you've done? It isn't bloodshed I wanted!"

Shilliam Watner December 7 2012 01:33 AM

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Quote:

SalvorHardin wrote: (Post 7358827)
My opinion? No way.

Me neither. If he is a Starfleet insider (as the synopsis suggests), a routine physical would have detected he is a Vulcan.

ChristopherPike December 7 2012 01:40 AM

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I'm sure there were some photos while the film was in production, of a fight scene, that showed Cumberbatch's villain bleeding red blood from a cut on his leg.

But that might not disprove a Sybok theory outright. It's sci-fi and that can probably be explained away as infiltration. Changes made so he can pass as a human.

Out of all the fan theories, the only I don't for a second believe could be possible... is Khan. Even then, he could be a Khan-like augment/superman.

teacock December 7 2012 01:41 AM

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Shilliam Watner wrote: (Post 7358932)
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Me neither. If he is a Starfleet insider (as the synopsis suggests), a routine physical would have detected he is a Vulcan.


*cough* Arne Darvin.

AJBlue98 December 7 2012 01:42 AM

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Quote:

Ghost of Christmas Future wrote: (Post 7358929)
I thought we had to keep all comments on the other thread?

What other thread?

teacock December 7 2012 01:42 AM

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Quote:

ChristopherPike wrote: (Post 7358950)
Out of all the fan theories, the only I don't for a second believe could be possible... is Khan. Even then, he could be a Khan-like augment/superman.

You believe Sybok over Khan?

RoJoHen December 7 2012 01:45 AM

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teacake wrote: (Post 7358965)
Quote:

ChristopherPike wrote: (Post 7358950)
Out of all the fan theories, the only I don't for a second believe could be possible... is Khan. Even then, he could be a Khan-like augment/superman.

You believe Sybok over Khan?

I do, too. Khan just seems too obvious.

Occupy TNZ December 7 2012 01:48 AM

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Sybok? Haha, no.

teacock December 7 2012 01:56 AM

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The movie opens with Cumberbatch as a Vulcan slicing the tips of his ears off.


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