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gavinwatson November 29 2012 12:31 PM

Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
Hi All,

I have been going crazy trying to find a specific scene from a specific episode of TNG. A friend is telling me it never happened which I just cannot believe.

What I remember is that the Enterprise approached a planet and an immensely superior and futuristic ship appeared with both energy and physical shields, it shot at the Enterprise with energy weapons that Gordie mentions as creating a huge energy surge in the Enterprise. The Enterprise fights back and the ship flys away, the Enterprise chases but the ship matches the Enterprises acceleration perfectly, so they can't catch it. Eventually they give up and Ricker says something like, "The one that got away".. I think Q summoned the ship to try and keep the Enterprise from going to the planet, but can't be sure. Thing is, I've searched every episode with Q and can't find this scene.

Has anyone any idea? I know I've seen this but can't find it.

Thanks guys,

Start Wreck November 29 2012 01:01 PM

Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
It sounds like it's from The Survivors (season 3?). Although it wasn't summoned by Q, it was summoned by a god-like being, and I recall the scene matching your description more or less.

Timo November 29 2012 01:48 PM

Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
Yup... Sounds like it's this baby all right:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...rvivors106.jpg

Seems this model was later extensively modified to become Kivas Fajo's private ship in "The Most Toys" (the engines at the rear are the telltale), and then redone several times until it became a Bajoran (Cardassian?) ship, the triangular one with triangular nacelles. One of the better reworkings, as the ship is nearly unidentifiable each time she gets a makeover.

Timo Saloniemi

gavinwatson November 29 2012 05:27 PM

Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
That's it!!!! Thank you so much guys! :D

EmperorTiberius November 29 2012 09:17 PM

Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
I wonder if Husnock would have posed a serious problem to Starfleet. That ship is 5 times the mass of Enterprise, which shows they have a decent industrial capacity, and at 50 billion population they would have had a small empire at least.

Trekker4747 November 29 2012 09:21 PM

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EmperorTiberius wrote: (Post 7322029)
I wonder if Husnock would have posed a serious problem to Starfleet. That ship is 5 times the mass of Enterprise, which shows they have a decent industrial capacity, and at 50 billion population they would have had a small empire at least.

That's assuming the ship was perfectly modeled after the Husnock and their ship and capability and not just a general ship created by the Dowd as a threat to the Enterprise.

EmperorTiberius November 29 2012 09:54 PM

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Trekker4747 wrote: (Post 7322071)
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EmperorTiberius wrote: (Post 7322029)
I wonder if Husnock would have posed a serious problem to Starfleet. That ship is 5 times the mass of Enterprise, which shows they have a decent industrial capacity, and at 50 billion population they would have had a small empire at least.

That's assuming the ship was perfectly modeled after the Husnock and their ship and capability and not just a general ship created by the Dowd as a threat to the Enterprise.

Yeah I guess so. Dowd said that he tried to trick the Husnock in the simlar way. Perphaps he used the same ship or a fake Starfleet ship.

jimbotron November 29 2012 10:17 PM

Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
The Husnock ship was originally made with CG. I'm sure it's gonna look great on Blu-ray.

Mott the barber December 4 2012 08:00 PM

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jimbotron wrote: (Post 7322323)
The Husnock ship was originally made with CG. I'm sure it's gonna look great on Blu-ray.


Never heard that before. You sure about that?

Either way it was a cool battle and neat to see the Ent. go up against something superior.

Tosk December 5 2012 04:19 AM

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It wasn't CG. The filming model was built by Tony Meininger.

Timo December 5 2012 12:27 PM

Re: Mystery ship? Can anyone help?
 
In the scene where the model dives towards the planet to destroy the Uxbridge estate, you can see the stern and the telltale shapes of the red-glowing engines and the angled tubular things.

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...rvivors203.jpg

This rear end will pop up again several times in TNG and DS9... With significant physical modifications and added detail, as the initial Husnock model appears very smooth and lacking in "scale establishers" other than the portholes.

This variant is seen in "The Most Toys" and "Silicon Avatar":

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...osttoys001.jpg

This one is seen in Bajoran and Cardassian hands:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...nsignro230.jpg

Timo Saloniemi

Mott the barber December 5 2012 04:05 PM

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Timo wrote: (Post 7348987)
In the scene where the model dives towards the planet to destroy the Uxbridge estate, you can see the stern and the telltale shapes of the red-glowing engines and the angled tubular things.

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...rvivors203.jpg

This rear end will pop up again several times in TNG and DS9... With significant physical modifications and added detail, as the initial Husnock model appears very smooth and lacking in "scale establishers" other than the portholes.

This variant is seen in "The Most Toys" and "Silicon Avatar":

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...osttoys001.jpg

This one is seen in Bajoran and Cardassian hands:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...nsignro230.jpg

Timo Saloniemi

Nice catches!

jimbotron December 8 2012 07:00 AM

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Oh, my mistake. I must be thinking of another ship.

Speaking of CGI, thank goodness this will finally get replaced:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...command191.jpg

Tosk December 8 2012 10:22 AM

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jimbotron wrote: (Post 7365754)
Speaking of CGI, thank goodness this will finally get replaced:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...command191.jpg

Sorry, but there is no CGI in that scene either. That's the two-foot Enterprise and (I think) a redress of the Merchant ship from Star Trek III.

Ar-Pharazon December 8 2012 02:19 PM

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^ I think he meant that CGI would allow them to replace all those instances of the same model being used, if they decide to go that route.

Or at least that poor quality shot specifically.


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