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newtontomato539 November 19 2012 03:22 PM

What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
I want to see the Klingons slowly look like they are in the TOS movies, better Kzin, the Enterprise bridge slowly look like the TMP bridge, more M'Ress, more Arex and add scenes from the Alan Dean Foster adaptations. :techman:

zarkon November 19 2012 03:49 PM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
So more of a remake then a remaster

I rather suspect the only thing that might happen with TAS is an upscale.

TREK_GOD_1 November 19 2012 05:06 PM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
I don't think TAS needs remastering, but if there was one shot that would benefit from attention, it was the title sequence version of the Enterprise fly-by, which had the ship quickly move from left to right, instead of the ship racing from infinity and toward the foreground, as seen in TOS.

This would be an interesting experiment, and only if the new version replicated the Filmation design of the Enterprise and the starfield.

BillJ November 19 2012 05:40 PM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
I'd love if they redid the animation reusing the voice work, sound tracks and music.

zarkon November 19 2012 05:44 PM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
I think getting a decent japanese studio to do the animation would cost something close to $100k per episode.

I'm not sure the demand is there to ever make this viable.

BillJ November 19 2012 06:33 PM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
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zarkon wrote: (Post 7277083)
I think getting a decent japanese studio to do the animation would cost something close to $100k per episode.

I'm not sure the demand is there to ever make this viable.

So they could re-do the entire show for $2.2 million? Sounds like a bargain for something you could resell to broadcasters and home video.

zarkon November 19 2012 08:26 PM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
Well, a bit more - that's Just the cost for the animation. I got that figure from an article last year that estimated the complete cost for an episode of Japanese animation at $145k:

http://www.crunchyroll.co.uk/anime-n...e-cost-to-make

Then take off sound, script, and a couple of the others will be cheaper, and the yen has depreciated vs the dollar significantly since this article was written. But then I suppose there'll be extra costs associated with timing to the audio & cleaning it up(unless the job done with the dvd version was sufficient).

BillJ November 19 2012 08:29 PM

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zarkon wrote: (Post 7277827)
Well, a bit more - that's Just the cost for the animation. I got that figure from an article last year that estimated the complete cost for an episode of Japanese animation at $145k:

http://www.crunchyroll.co.uk/anime-n...e-cost-to-make

Then take off sound, script, and a couple of the others will be cheaper, and the yen has depreciated vs the dollar significantly since this article was written. But then I suppose there'll be extra costs associated with timing to the audio & cleaning it up(unless the job done with the dvd version was sufficient).

Still doesn't seem like an incredibly large investment for a company like CBS.

M November 19 2012 09:35 PM

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zarkon wrote: (Post 7276630)
I rather suspect the only thing that might happen with TAS is an upscale.

Actually – and I only know about that, because someone mentioned it in another thread the other day – all of TAS' negatives have already been scanned for the DVDs. So no upscaling; the blu-rays will contain HD material. In fact, the "Trouble With Tribbles" blu-ray from season two of TOS on blu-ray actually features the HD version of "More Tribbles, More Troubles".

As for what I want to see: The show as we know and love it, only with more clearity. Nothing added and nothing taken away.

Timewalker November 20 2012 03:00 AM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
I don't want to see TAS remastered, period.

Captain Nebula November 20 2012 03:44 AM

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newtontomato539 wrote: (Post 7276537)
What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?

CGI

With how both The Clone Wars and Iron Man: Armored Adventures turned out, they could redo all of the Star Trek Animated shows as CGI.

Harvey November 20 2012 08:00 AM

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BillJ wrote: (Post 7277845)
Still doesn't seem like an incredibly large investment for a company like CBS.

It does when it is an investment the company doesn't need to make. The episodes are HD ready. There's no reason to invest that kind of cash, especially into a product that has pretty limited appeal, like TAS. There's a reason it isn't syndicated as often as any of the live action series -- there just isn't demand from viewers. (Not to mention, there aren't that many episodes, which make it even more unappealing to buyers).

Merry Christmas November 20 2012 11:22 AM

Re: What do you want to see in TAS Remastered?
 
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BillJ wrote: (Post 7277071)
I'd love if they redid the animation reusing the voice work, sound tracks and music.

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Captain Nebula wrote: (Post 7279996)
With how both The Clone Wars and Iron Man: Armored Adventures turned out, they could redo all of the Star Trek Animated shows as CGI.

Yes, and yes.


:)

TREK_GOD_1 November 20 2012 03:40 PM

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T'Girl wrote: (Post 7281082)
Yes, and yes.


:)

Why? What is the point of trashing the very work which attracted viewers/won an Emmy, etc.? Look at the Star Wars situation--the original films have been screwed with again and again since 1997, and most of the changes are not only pointless, but stand out as obvious computer artifacts...and that's from the alleged best efx house in the world.

zarkon November 20 2012 03:58 PM

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TREK_GOD_1 wrote: (Post 7281502)
Why? What is the point of trashing the very work which attracted viewers/won an Emmy, etc.? Look at the Star Wars situation--the original films have been screwed with again and again since 1997, and most of the changes are not only pointless, but stand out as obvious computer artifacts...and that's from the alleged best efx house in the world.

They're talking about complete animation replacment, the issues star wars had with mixing and matching don't really come into play.

New animation + old audio can be done successfully. Toei, the animation house in charge of one of the most successful japanese cartoon series , "one piece", has been making it for over thirteen years, so the early episodes look markedly different to the later ones. When they have to do flashbacks they often totally redo the animation so it's not so jarring, and it looks rather good.

Whether it should be done can of course be argued.


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