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los2188 November 11 2012 08:41 PM

Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
There's something that I've always wondered about. Can Data be assimilated by the Borg? I remember him being called "obsolete" in Best of Both Worlds, but I also recall hearing more than a few times that the Borg needed their organic parts in order to survive. I ask this because for many years after watching First Contact, I could never quite figure out why Data wasn't assimilated so the queen Borg would be able to know that Data was playing along, but was still on the side of the Federation.

Stephen! November 11 2012 08:49 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
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los2188 wrote: (Post 7240696)
I could never quite figure out why Data wasn't assimilated

The queen wanted a counterpart, rather than just another mindless drone.

los2188 November 11 2012 09:01 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
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Stephen! wrote: (Post 7240720)
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los2188 wrote: (Post 7240696)
I could never quite figure out why Data wasn't assimilated

The queen wanted a counterpart, rather than just another mindless drone.

Yes I understand that, but could he actually be assimilated??

sbk1234 November 11 2012 11:51 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
no

Mr. Laser Beam November 12 2012 12:15 AM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
Data is a technological device, and thus can be assimilated. It would be no different than the Borg subverting a ship's computer systems.

Whether or not Data can *fight back* is unclear. But the Borg can certainly try.

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los2188 wrote: (Post 7240696)
I also recall hearing more than a few times that the Borg needed their organic parts in order to survive.

That applies to drones which had organic parts in the first place, yes. But we've seen Borg taking over computer systems, and Data would be the same. You don't need organic parts to survive if you never had them. The Borg are a collection of millions of different species; some of these surely were not organic.

Tiberius November 12 2012 05:20 AM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
I don't see why Data couldn't be assimilated. After all, the Borg have never had any trouble assimilating completely technological things. The Raven, for example.

Ar-Pharazon November 12 2012 10:33 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
"we will add your biological & technological distinctiveness to our own"

That's assuming your biological and/or technological distinctiveness is of any use to the Borg and not, in fact, "obsolete".

davejames November 12 2012 10:47 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
If the Borg could assimilate portions of the Enterprise, surely they could assimilate Data.

Kooz November 13 2012 07:44 AM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
Data could be assimilated; remember when Masaka rewrote his programming in Masks.

R. Star November 13 2012 10:57 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
Locutus says Data is primitive and would be obsolete in the New Order.

First Contact says Data could've been the Borg King.

So it's a matter of opinion, since both arguments have supporting canon facts.

Captain McBain November 14 2012 03:26 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
Data states in First Contact that he was incapable of being assimilated, or words to that effect. Data's system would have probably fought back against the nanoprobes and defeated them. In "Contagion," for example, Data is 'killed' by the alien influence, but his program eliminates it and Data regains consciousness.

T'Preea November 15 2012 04:25 AM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
I don't see why Data couldn't be. Of course, his defense program would kick in; but ultimately, they very well could assimilate him into the Collective.

Savage Dragon November 16 2012 08:30 PM

Re: Can Data be assimilated by the Borg?
 
If Data can get "drunk", then he get assimilated IMO.


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