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Drago-Kazov November 1 2012 05:03 PM

Movies and tv series with realistic gunfights.
 
I had enever been in a gunfight but as far ass i remember Generation Kill, The Wire and Hatfields and Mccoys HBO mini had the most realistic ones i had seen on scrren. A special shoutout for Tour of Duty season 1 too.

I would like it if people who had seen actual combat as part of Law Enforcement or military would share their opinions. I don't dicriminate against gang-bangers and terrorists either.

Are there any others? Am i right about the ones i listed?

sojourner November 1 2012 05:12 PM

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The most realistic part of a gun fight I have seen was first season Hawaii 5-0. They actually had to stop and reload in the middle of the fight. Hatfields and McCoys wasn't HBO.

Drago-Kazov November 1 2012 05:18 PM

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History Channel right. I forgot. Were all gunfights like that on Hawai 0 5?

sojourner November 1 2012 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Drago-Kazov wrote: (Post 7188154)
History Channel right. I forgot. Were all gunfights like that on Hawai 0 5?

5-0 hasn't had many drawn out gunfights like that since the pilot. I don't recall any other reloading scenes. They're way too busy with gratuitous smart phone scenes these days.

Mister Fandango November 1 2012 06:19 PM

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I found the scenes in Reservoir Dogs rather believable, especially Mr. Pink when he stole the car.

BruntFCA November 1 2012 06:29 PM

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Open Range was really good.

Captaindemotion November 1 2012 09:31 PM

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I'm not expert but I thought the one in Heat (apparently co-ordinated by former SAS members) was pretty convincing.

Of course, gunfights like those in Reservoir Dogs or The Wire, where people blaze away amateurishly and hit only at random or close range, are probably more like what happens in real life.

Mr. Laser Beam November 1 2012 09:39 PM

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I've always wondered if Gun Kata, from Equilibrium, could ever be made to work in real life. That looks like a very cool way to pull off a gunfight!

sojourner November 1 2012 11:18 PM

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^Mythbusters did a "dodging bullets" episode. The short answer? no.

Mr. Laser Beam November 2 2012 02:01 AM

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^ But gun kata isn't about dodging bullets that have already been fired. It's about never being where the bullets are going to be. It's about recognizing where your opponents will be - and therefore where they will shoot - and not being there in the first place. It's about getting out of the way BEFORE they shoot. That's the difference.

Mister Fandango November 2 2012 04:40 AM

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Yeah, unless your brain happens to be an ultra powerful quantum computer that can account for every potential possibility and thus accurately predict the future, then no, gun kata from Equillibrium has zero chance of being even remotely possible.

Slightly improve your chances of not getting shot? Maybe, if you have some amazing gift for reading situations and people. But no way in Hell anything like in the movie where you just stand in the middle of six highly skilled and trained gunmen and walk out unscathed. Repeatedly.

sojourner November 2 2012 04:46 AM

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Especially against full auto machine guns.

Harvey November 2 2012 06:00 AM

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The Wire was fairly realistic and unromantic in its depictions of gunfights. The episode "Stray Rounds" comes to mind.

I think the gunfight in Tombstone comes the closest to the historical record, at least in terms of duration. Most of the versions of Wyatt Earp that I've seen have stretched out the battle into oblivion, when in fact it unfolded in less than a minute.

Drago-Kazov November 2 2012 08:10 AM

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Stary Round s is the one in which a kid gets shot trough a window accidentally?

Caliburn24 November 2 2012 01:59 PM

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As an Iraq war combat veteran, I will say that Generation Kill is probably the onscreen depiction that comes closest to what I experienced.

The thing that almost no movies or shows get right, is that people get freaking weird when bullets start flying, even professional soldiers. Because despite all that training no one really knows how they will react when bullets start whizzing by them for the first time.

The grizzled Sergeant with 20 years in the service may freeze up, the hard-charging LT might start spraying wildly. And that high school drop-out Private who spends 300$ a weekend on booze and has never made over 30/40 on rifle qualification, suddenly becomes cool as a cucumber and starts dropping the enemy with snapshots at 200 meters.

Real gunfights are wildly, wildly unpredictable, chaotic, and sloppy. And Hollywood rarely gets that right.


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