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hayesc0 October 26 2012 06:08 AM

why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
just wondering the reasoning for this

teacake October 26 2012 07:09 AM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
Because they were ugly.

NightOwl October 26 2012 01:43 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
^ Undefiable logic :p

MacLeod October 26 2012 01:56 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
Because by the time Voyager launched the DSN style unifrom was being phased in.

Pavonis October 26 2012 02:38 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
Out-of-universe, the DS9 jumpsuits were the current Star Trek costume.

In-universe, commanding officers seem to have the authority to decide which uniforms the crew will wear. Janeway liked the jumpsuits, therefore the jumpsuits were the preferred uniform for all.

In DS9, when Sisko becomes temporary head of Starfleet Security on Earth, he wears the TNG-era uniform. It seems to be a more formal uniform, between the dress uniform and the "fatigues" of DS9. Would make sense for Picard to prefer a more formal uniform for his starship.

King Daniel Into Darkness October 26 2012 05:58 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
I much preferred the uniforms seen in some of the early concept art. Better versions of the Next Gen constumes.
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a.../early_voy.jpg

EDIT: Damn phone making it sideways!:klingon:
From "The Art of Star Trek" p.145

hayesc0 October 27 2012 12:34 AM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
Quote:

MacLeod wrote: (Post 7159831)
Because by the time Voyager launched the DSN style unifrom was being phased in.

this does not make sense when ever starship personnel were on ds9 they wore tng style uniforms

Pavonis October 27 2012 04:15 AM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
Which only demonstrates that some starship captains preferred the TNG uniforms. It doesn't mean that the uniform is exclusive to starships.

Dream October 27 2012 04:58 AM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
They had the early DS9 uniforms and stayed with them for the entire series.

C.E. Evans October 27 2012 07:33 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
IMO, the early DS9/VOY uniforms were meant to be work fatigues, but they could be worn for regular duty postings at the discretion of a commanding officer. So you'd see them worn on some ships and outposts, but not all of them. Starfleet might have ultimately decided that Starfleet personnel needed a more unified appearance at the time (after the Voyager's disappearance) and the First Contact uniforms may have been issued to once again give their personnel a cohesive look.

R. Star October 27 2012 07:48 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
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Dream wrote: (Post 7163350)
They had the early DS9 uniforms and stayed with them for the entire series.

Given they were lost on the other side of the galaxy they missed the memo requiring them to switch to the TNG movie/late DS9 uniforms.

As for the variation between the early DS9 and TNG uniforms, I always envisioned it being at the CO's discretion which duty uniform they wanted their crew wearing.

Mr. Laser Beam October 27 2012 10:11 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
^ Which is pretty much exactly what happens in many real world navies (such as the US), isn't it? A ship's captain designates a "uniform of the day" which the crew wears.

King Daniel Into Darkness October 27 2012 11:27 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
TOS seemed to have concurrent uniforms in service, the "Cage" types were occasionally reused for personnel from other vessels. And its possible that there was unseen overlap with the TMP style too (particularly in light of Admiral Pike wearing a TMP style dress uniform at the end of the last movie, in alt-2258)

The Space Mountie red jackets seemed to cross over a little with the early TNG PJ's if one chooses to take inconsistant flashback costuming literally.

I know far too much about the outfits of fake astronauts in a pretend future :-/

Mr. Laser Beam October 27 2012 11:41 PM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
I always liked the DS9/Voyager uniforms better than the TNG ones anyway. The latter seemed too gaudy. Too much color. Which is also why I preferred the ST:FC uniforms to *any* of the ones previously used. :)

tomswift2002 October 29 2012 01:19 AM

Re: why didnt the voyager crew have tng uniforms
 
Quote:

Pavonis wrote: (Post 7159909)

In-universe, commanding officers seem to have the authority to decide which uniforms the crew will wear. Janeway liked the jumpsuits, therefore the jumpsuits were the preferred uniform for all.

In DS9, when Sisko becomes temporary head of Starfleet Security on Earth, he wears the TNG-era uniform. It seems to be a more formal uniform, between the dress uniform and the "fatigues" of DS9. Would make sense for Picard to prefer a more formal uniform for his starship.


Don't forget the in Generations we saw Troi and Worfwearing a TNG uniform when she crashed the ship, but Riker and Data were in the DS9 uniforms in the same scene. So it might've been more a transitory phase.


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