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mupps October 7 2012 04:18 AM

What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
I personally think I would have liked to have seen a Sovereign class (maybe an up gunned one) tearing it up during a battle.:cool:

Anything else you would have liked to have seen. Maybe if there was unlimited budget etc to do it?

Knight Templar October 7 2012 04:23 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
A major battle that Starfleet actually won on their own without another power or god like super aliens coming to their assistance.

And yeah, a Sovereign class ship in battle.

But perhaps most of all, a major battle where Starfleet was using actual somewhat realistic tactics and strategies instead of endless space dogfighting and "swoop & shoot"

mupps October 7 2012 05:18 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
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Knight Templar wrote: (Post 7067905)
A major battle that Starfleet actually won on their own without another power or god like super aliens coming to their assistance.

And yeah, a Sovereign class ship in battle.

But perhaps most of all, a major battle where Starfleet was using actual somewhat realistic tactics and strategies instead of endless space dogfighting and "swoop & shoot"

That would have been nice.....:)

sbk1234 October 7 2012 05:57 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
Like most fanboys, I'd have loved to see the Enterprise involved in a serious way on screen.

Jimi_James October 7 2012 07:20 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
I'll second the request for the Enterprise-E. Given that Worf had no trouble showing up for the TNG movies, it would have been nice to see the Enterprise-E make a visit to DS9. Particularly after the Enterprise-D had been there twice.

Many forget that the TNG Episode Birthright is a crossover, with the Enterprise-D stopping at DS9 and Bashir hanging out with Data. So it wasn't unprecedented for the Enterprise to crossover. I'm sure Frakes and a couple other TNG cast members could have been talked into making a cameo, and with a line of dialog about Picard being on Earth for some meeting, you don't even need Stewart.

It was definitely a missed opportunity, particularly given the other crossovers that have happened throughout Trek.

The Wormhole October 7 2012 07:44 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
The reason we never saw a Sovereign class ship in the war was because Paramount wanted the ship to be movie only and refused to let it be used on TV. There was quite the argument when Behr wanted one used in the final battle in WYLB.

Jimi_James October 7 2012 07:52 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
Well, as long as they had a good reason.

The Wormhole October 7 2012 07:57 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
The alleged reason was if the ship was seen on TV then no one would bother to see the movies in theatres. Of course, no one bothered to see the TNG movies in theatres anyway...

Jimi_James October 7 2012 08:04 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
That's film studio logic for you. I swear, it's like they live in a different reality than the rest of us. To them, up is down, left is right, dogs and cats are living together. It's mass hysteria.

King Daniel Into Darkness October 7 2012 10:32 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
How about, during "The Seige of AR-588", somebody remembered that phasers have a wide-beam setting? It may have been unsporting and unstarfleet, but one guy on wide beam setting (as seen in TOS, mentioned in TNG and seen earlier on DS9) could have held that canyon by themself. Remember Ronald Tracy killing thousands of Yangs before his phaser ran low in "The Omega Glory"? It might have been interesting, the psychological ramifications for the guy holding the phaser.

I've also wanted to see a ship bombarding a planet from orbit, ever since the Enterprise had to eradicate dangerous spores from a planet in an old Gold Key comic book.

Deimos Anomaly October 7 2012 12:03 PM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
Proper soldiers / ground forces. Like MACOs or something similar.

Also: any time that combat is imminent, several of said troopers should be visible stationed in the bridge and other critical areas of starships (and ops on DS9), armed and ready to defend against boarding actions.

Drago-Kazov October 10 2012 03:18 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
Spock and Odo interacting on DS 9.

Jimi_James October 10 2012 04:01 AM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
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Deimos Anomaly wrote: (Post 7068889)
Proper soldiers / ground forces. Like MACOs or something similar.

Also: any time that combat is imminent, several of said troopers should be visible stationed in the bridge and other critical areas of starships (and ops on DS9), armed and ready to defend against boarding actions.


I agree, though I would extend this to include general security personnel that actually wear some sort of uniform and gear beyond the mere Starfleet uniform. Something that offers some level of protection above simple fabric, and carries gear one might need to actually deal with a security threat.

How many times did we see Worf and his security teams get theirs but handed to them, while showing up to deal with a security threat with little more than a phaser and a tricorder. I mean come on. You don't send cops into a bank to deal with a robber, armed with just their standard uniform, their side arm, and a flashlight. You send a SWAT team.

Ships security shouldn't be handled by regular Starfleet personnel and shouldn't be a secondary duty of the Tactical officer. Both are critical positions and should be independent departments aboard almost every ship.
If they're going to pull ideas and traditions from the navy, than create a separate depart of security forces, like the MACO's or a group of Marines that have no other job than to defend the ship and ensure the safety of those aboard it...meaning they go on away missions as well.

The Wormhole October 10 2012 01:35 PM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
Of course, budget is also an issue. Why spend money on special uniforms and armour when a guy armed with a phaser rifle conveys the message to the audience at a fraction of the cost? The fact that someone was willing to spill some money to make those outfits for the guys in Nor the Battle to the Strong was surprising. Less so with the MACOs, since they were covered in the new season's budget.

Security officers in the TOS movies did wear armour, but only when they were on shipboard duty. No one that took part in the assault on Nimbus III in Trek V was wearing the armour. In fact, in Flashback when Sulu calls security to the bridge, those guards are only wearing the enlisted uniform.

Deckerd October 10 2012 01:48 PM

Re: What would you have liked to have seen during the Dominion war?
 
Some sort of self-determination negotiated for the Jem Hadar. The Vortas not so much since they were not physically dependent on the Dominion.


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