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tmosler September 30 2012 01:18 AM

is star trek first contact best star trek movie
 
Hi I recently watched star trek first contact and without a doubt it is my favorite star trek movie. But I was reading reviews about the movie online recently and read that most people think the movie is ethier bad or okay. I just wanted to see what people here thought about the movie.

Greg Cox September 30 2012 01:19 AM

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I like FIRST CONTACT. It's easily the very best of the TNG-era movies.

BillJ September 30 2012 02:02 AM

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Probably the most popular of the TNG films.

spaceballone September 30 2012 02:07 AM

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It's my personal favorite of all of the trek movies and is in general one of the most popular films in the series.

Tiberius September 30 2012 05:39 AM

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A very enjoyable movie. I like it a lot.

Transwarp Drive September 30 2012 06:43 AM

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Tiberius wrote: (Post 7034218)
A very enjoyable movie. I like it a lot.

I hated it, contrived nonsense.

Tiberius September 30 2012 07:01 AM

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Transwarp Drive wrote: (Post 7034500)
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Tiberius wrote: (Post 7034218)
A very enjoyable movie. I like it a lot.

I hated it, contrived nonsense.

Yeah. All that "warp drive" nonsense. How unbelievable is that?

MrJ September 30 2012 07:52 AM

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Well, everything about the Borg sucked (except the way they looked, that was pretty cool). But their entire plan and adding the Borg Queen were terrible. It was a kind of dumb action zombie movie. But it was still by far the best TNG movie.

Tiberius September 30 2012 08:13 AM

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MrJ wrote: (Post 7034749)
But their entire plan...

And what do you think their plan was?

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...and adding the Borg Queen were terrible.
Why shouldn't the Borg have an embodiment of the Collective mind?

After all, if you have billions of drones connected together, why shouldn't they function as one mind? Your brain cells do it easily enough. And why shouldn't the Queen be an individual, emoting all over the place? Your brain cells don't have any individuality and can't emote, but when they all act as one, they form your mind, don't they? A mind with a sense of individuality and emotions. So why should it be so implausible that the Borg do exactly the same thing?

Mage September 30 2012 09:04 AM

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It's a very good movie, but except for things like warpdrive, transporters and such, it lacks what it actually at the core of Star Trek; the moral dillema and exploration of humanity. Essentially, First Contact was a SciFi Action movie. And that's why it's populair.

Other movies have tried to do the moral dillema, with various results.

R. Star September 30 2012 09:22 AM

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What does the Borg Queen add to the Collective again?

A personality that makes rather obvious emotional mistakes?
Causing all the drones around her to die if she does?

She seems more of a liability to the Borg than anything else. Before her the Borg were a scary Collective entity... after just another generic villain whose panties get in a bunch with the best of them.

Mage September 30 2012 09:35 AM

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R. Star wrote: (Post 7034932)
What does the Borg Queen add to the Collective again?

A personality that makes rather obvious emotional mistakes?
Causing all the drones around her to die if she does?

She seems more of a liability to the Borg than anything else. Before her the Borg were a scary Collective entity... after just another generic villain whose panties get in a bunch with the best of them.


You know, they were already contemplating adding the Queen for Best Of Both Worlds, but they decided that, to give the Borg a face and voice, the Borg would assimilate Picard, making them more of a menace.

King Daniel Into Darkness September 30 2012 10:06 AM

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I loved First Contact. Definitely the best of the TNG movies, but not quite my overall favourite.
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Mage wrote: (Post 7034896)
It's a very good movie, but except for things like warpdrive, transporters and such, it lacks what it actually at the core of Star Trek; the moral dillema and exploration of humanity. Essentially, First Contact was a SciFi Action movie. And that's why it's populair.

I say Trek can be and has been a lot of things. That's the beauty of the format. Fun action-adventure is as much "true" Star Trek as the moral quandries and "exporation of humanity" are.

beamMe September 30 2012 10:14 AM

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Mage wrote: (Post 7034896)
it lacks what it actually at the core of Star Trek; the moral dillema and exploration of humanity.

That is there also.
It just doesn't kick you in the face with it and walks away giggling madly as Insurrection does.

teacake September 30 2012 10:16 AM

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First Contact was my favorite Trek movie for years. I managed to over watch it eventually and it's been replaced on the list with TOS movies and ST:XI. But I still love many things about it :)

And let's not forget it gave us the marvelous opening to In a Mirror, Darkly.


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