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LobsterAfternoon September 28 2012 08:59 PM

Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Forgive me if this has been asked before, since I don't post here too often. But have we ever seen any evidence for vulcans being, as a species, smarter than humans? Most of our vulcan main characters are certainly involved in intellectual pursuits (the sciences, future chess, logic, etc), but are they any smarter than the average Academy graduate of any species?

MacLeod September 29 2012 12:15 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
I would say not, sure they might be better suited to the sciences than other species but that doesn't mean they are smarter.

Captain McBain September 29 2012 12:36 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Spock was certainly able to do mental math much better than any humanoid we've seen.

C.E. Evans September 29 2012 01:30 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Biologically? No.

Culturally? Perhaps.

In a society that celebrates logic over emotion, academics may be a favorite pastime of Vulcans from a very young age. And yet for all their book smarts, some Vulcans tend to have little to no common sense. They become so immersed in the Vulcan way, so focused on doing everything logically, that they tend to be baffled by things that are non-Vulcan or don't fit their parameters of how they think things should be...like Humans.

teacake September 29 2012 01:54 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
I think they are biologically smarter. They've been making genetically smart choices for centuries. I doubt they allow sub intelligent Vulcans to breed, assuming they haven't fixed these problems.

Santa Kang September 29 2012 02:16 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Did the Vulcans invent duotronic computers?

Did the Vulcans invent transwarp beaming?

Did the Vulcans invent transparent aluminium?

Is a Vulcan synonymous with Warp Drive?

teacake September 29 2012 03:00 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
They did all that when we were smelting bronze.

mupps September 29 2012 03:25 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
I think what they have is the focus and clarity to pursue intellectual pursuits more...diligently, then the average human.

A Vulcan probably spends decades on their education alone never mind what they do with that education.
Humans would have a broader sense of life and how to live it.
But a human who puts in the effort and time is probably a match for the best and brightest Vulcans.

As was said by C.E, they are intelligent but are they smart?

How much did T'Pol keep bringing up the dogmatic response that time travel was impossible...even when she saw evidence of it happeneing.

teacake September 29 2012 03:27 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
One of the novels touches on how living long and spending many decades on single pursuits leads to atrophying of curiosity and a lack of openness to new ideas.

Santa Kang September 29 2012 03:51 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Quote:

teacake wrote: (Post 7029301)
They did all that when we were smelting bronze.

And then stagnated?

If so, it would appear that the human versions are preferred over and possibly superior to the Vulcan ones.:p

teacake September 29 2012 03:55 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Yes they stagnated. Once something had been determined, such as the impossibility of time travel, there was no reason to pursue ideas that contradicted what was known as fact. In ENT we see that they think exploration for the sake of seeing what is there is a poor use of time and resources. I think that may have been a cultural understanding that effected a lot of their development.

Wild ideas aren't logical.

Santa Kang September 29 2012 04:19 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
Quote:

teacake wrote: (Post 7029496)
Yes they stagnated. Once something had been determined, such as the impossibility of time travel, there was no reason to pursue ideas that contradicted what was known as fact. In ENT we see that they think exploration for the sake of seeing what is there is a poor use of time and resources. I think that may have been a cultural understanding that effected a lot of their development.

Wild ideas aren't logical.

They suck at being scientists :p

R. Star September 29 2012 04:27 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
I see a question with no provable answer that is basically turning into a debate over who likes what race better.

Santa Kang September 29 2012 04:28 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
I love the Vulcans, myself. They might be my favorite ST race.

teacake September 29 2012 04:39 AM

Re: Are vulcans biologically smarter than humans?
 
IDIC peoples!

:)


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