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t_smitts September 23 2012 06:19 AM

Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recast?
 
I'm not usually a fan of recasting, unless it's absolutely necessarily. The radicaly difference of Neral between "Unification" and the aforementioned episode (referred to, from here on, as IAESL), however, is one of the strangest.

Neral in Unification was explicitly described as a relatively young leader. He looks round faces and bright. Just seven years later, however, we get this extremely thin, aged fellow who looks a couple of decades older. Look, I know being a political leader is a stressful job that ages people prematurely, but come on!

Why they didn't go with Norman Large again is total mystery. The only explanation is a cryptic respsonse from Ron Moore saying "We did consider it, but decided to go in another direction", whatever the hell that means. I doubt they thought he was a bad actor, since they cast him in three other roles after Neral.

If they simply wanted a more seasoned character leading the Empire in the episode, why not simply create a new one?

R. Star September 23 2012 07:09 AM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
Romulan Leaders routinely have their brains transplanted into new bodies with different faces. This makes assassinations harder.

Tiberius September 23 2012 07:52 AM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
They probably reused the character to create a continuity but then weren't able to get the actor due to scheduling conflicts or something. They decided that changing the name when the character was only a minor character in the first place wasn't worth the loss of the chance to reuse the character.

Finn September 23 2012 01:30 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
I have no idea what you are talking about.


I think that probably pretty much answers it. Who cares ;)

If we can swallow two people playing Saavik, we can handle a minor guest character. I just googled and they both hardly had a role in both appearances.

t_smitts September 23 2012 05:32 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
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Finn wrote: (Post 7001950)
I have no idea what you are talking about.


I think that probably pretty much answers it. Who cares ;)

If we can swallow two people playing Saavik, we can handle a minor guest character. I just googled and they both hardly had a role in both appearances.

Well the circumstances behind Saavik being recast are pretty well known, and I think it was far more important to carry her over from II to III than it was to bring back Neral.

DS9forever September 23 2012 06:53 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
Cretak was also recast, as was Ziyal (twice).

Finn September 23 2012 09:23 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
Naomi, Tom Paris' Daddy and Molly O'Brien were all recast. :)

t_smitts September 23 2012 09:41 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
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DS9forever wrote: (Post 7002874)
Cretak was also recast, as was Ziyal (twice).

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Finn wrote: (Post 7003699)
Naomi, Tom Paris' Daddy and Molly O'Brien were all recast. :)

Actually, they used the same girl for Molly throughout. Maybe you meant Alexander. (I don't think Brian Bonsall was still acting when they recast for DS9)


I have no idea why they recast Admiral Paris. For Naomi, they probably wanted an older kid for a larger (possibly recurring) part.


With Cretak, the original actress was apparently unavailable. Supposedly, they wanted someone older for Ziyal, if she was to have a relationship with Garak.

With Neral, however, the character was so fundamentally different, I still don't know what was the point.

DS9forever September 23 2012 11:24 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
"In the Pale Moonlight" had confirmed Neral was still Praetor; I guess the writers had their own idea.

t_smitts September 24 2012 12:49 AM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
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DS9forever wrote: (Post 7004461)
"In the Pale Moonlight" had confirmed Neral was still Praetor; I guess the writers had their own idea.

He was still referred to as Proconsul in "Pale Moonlight". IAESL said he'd been elevated to Praetor.

Finn September 24 2012 08:20 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
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t_smitts wrote: (Post 7003810)

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Finn wrote: (Post 7003699)
Naomi, Tom Paris' Daddy and Molly O'Brien were all recast. :)

Actually, they used the same girl for Molly throughout.

No. Hana Hatae didn't play the baby in Disaster....

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With Neral, however, the character was so fundamentally different, I still don't know what was the point.
I didn't notice. Was it established that he was the same Neral? There was a remarkably difference in age...

Did Neral go and talked about the time he held Data and Spock hostage to Bashir?

t_smitts September 24 2012 08:39 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
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Finn wrote: (Post 7008496)
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t_smitts wrote: (Post 7003810)

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Finn wrote: (Post 7003699)
Naomi, Tom Paris' Daddy and Molly O'Brien were all recast. :)

Actually, they used the same girl for Molly throughout.

No. Hana Hatae didn't play the baby in Disaster....

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With Neral, however, the character was so fundamentally different, I still don't know what was the point.
I didn't notice. Was it established that he was the same Neral? There was a remarkably difference in age...

Did Neral go and talked about the time he held Data and Spock hostage to Bashir?

Nobody counts babies.

I think they did mention that he was the former Proconsul elevated to Praetor.

Mr_Homn September 24 2012 09:41 PM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
Stinks that they recasted the character. I really liked Normal Large's performance in Unification. He was one slimey romulan.

Tiberius September 25 2012 11:40 AM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
This is Molly today, aged 24...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu...sk2o1_1280.jpg

OMG!!!:eek::drool:

StarMan September 29 2012 04:38 AM

Re: Why bother using Neral in "Inter Arma..." if you're going to recas
 
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Tiberius wrote: (Post 7011319)
This is Molly today, aged 24...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu...sk2o1_1280.jpg

OMG!!!:eek::drool:

That's Kitchen Nightmares - Sushi Ko. I remember the episode well for a) Sushi Pizza (No. Just, no.) and b) Akira's stunning daughter! LOL - and it's Molly O'Brien. How about that? :lol:


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