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GeneHunt September 20 2012 12:18 PM

When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
I just imagine it is their version of the doctor with a perception filter.

Does anyone else?

Ar-Pharazon September 20 2012 02:43 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
I haven't seen too many of them elsewhere.

Christopher Eccleston in Gone In 60 Seconds
Tom Baker in The Zany Adventures Of Robin Hood

Those parts didn't really remind me of the Doctor.

Colin Baker in The Stranger series did remind me of a self-exiled Doctor, but I think that was the intent at first, before they "explained" the character.

Sindatur September 20 2012 03:25 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
I've seen Tennant in HP and The Goblet of Fire, but, that was before he was in Doctor Who.

I've seen Eccelston in 28 Weeks or 28 Days Later, and he was barely recognizable to me, so no problem there, and in Heroes, he was quite recognizable to me, but, the performance was so different, no problem there either.

I've seen Advertisments for Tom Baker as Sherlock Holmes, but, not the actual movie/show, though if I had seen the show, I think it definitely would've rang out to me Doctor #4

I've seen Sylvester McCoy in something (Don't remember what) but, it didn't really sing out Doctor #7 to me.

Christopher September 20 2012 03:41 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
Patrick Troughton and Tom Baker have been in consecutive Ray Harryhausen Sinbad movies, Baker as the villain in The Golden Voyage of Sinbad and Troughton as a wise alchemist in Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger.

Of course, Peter Davison was well-known from his role in All Creatures Great and Small before he was the Doctor, and I saw that show occasionally on PBS back in the day. And I've seen Paul McGann in Alien³.

Sindatur September 20 2012 03:45 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
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Christopher wrote: (Post 6989197)
Patrick Troughton and Tom Baker have been in consecutive Ray Harryhausen Sinbad movies, Baker as the villain in The Golden Voyage of Sinbad and Troughton as a wise alchemist in Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger.

Oooh, I didn't know that, haven't seen them in 30+ years, before I'd seen any Doctor Who. Well, there's a reason to watch them sometime in the near Future. I believe I have recordings from TCM of both of them, that I haven't watched yet.

OmahaStar September 20 2012 08:25 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
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GeneHunt wrote: (Post 6988801)
I just imagine it is their version of the doctor with a perception filter.

Does anyone else?

Really? Because in this thread, you say you imagine they are on the holodeck.

Kind of smells spammy to me, posting basically the same thread in more than one forum.

Wereghost September 20 2012 08:48 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
Troughton's appearance in The Omen would be a standout; almost as if Two were exiled to Earth, became (impersonated?) a priest and ended up impaled on a railing before turning into Three.

Then, of course, there's Nine in Shallow Grave along with Obi-Wan, not to mention cameoing as Nicole Kidman's hubby in The Others.

Christopher September 20 2012 09:47 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
Personally I don't think it's very respectful to actors to insist on seeing them as one character when they're trying to create a different one. Many actors resent being typecast as just one role, because the whole goal of the craft (and, often, a necessary part of making a living at it) is to be capable of transforming oneself into multiple different characters. Especially for a chameleonic character actor like Troughton, the kind of performer who prides himself on disappearing into a character, equating him with only a single role is like calling him a failure at the very thing his career and reputation are built upon.

Pindar September 20 2012 10:02 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
No, to the OP

Quote:

Christopher wrote: (Post 6991141)
Personally I don't think it's very respectful to actors to insist on seeing them as one character when they're trying to create a different one. Many actors resent being typecast as just one role, because the whole goal of the craft (and, often, a necessary part of making a living at it) is to be capable of transforming oneself into multiple different characters. Especially for a chameleonic character actor like Troughton, the kind of performer who prides himself on disappearing into a character, equating him with only a single role is like calling him a failure at the very thing his career and reputation are built upon.

This.

DWF September 21 2012 01:22 AM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
Personally I love the actors who's played the Doctor in other roles just to see them not playing the Doctor.

Dantheman September 23 2012 10:26 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
I've seen Tom Baker as Rasputin in a movie about Tsar Nicholas and Alexandria on TCM once. Being a Time Lord would explain why he was hard to kill.

Christopher September 23 2012 11:33 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
Except, of course, that Rasputin wasn't really hard to kill at all; that was just propaganda created by his killers 1) in order to paint Rasputin as a demonic figure and 2) because it was more impressive than saying "Hey, we just murdered a feeble old man."

Greg Cox September 23 2012 11:40 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
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Dantheman wrote: (Post 7004116)
I've seen Tom Baker as Rasputin in a movie about Tsar Nicholas and Alexandria on TCM once. Being a Time Lord would explain why he was hard to kill.

That was Nicholas and Alexandria.

And Patrick Troughton was in several old Hammer Horror films like The Gorgon and Scars of Dracula.

Christopher September 23 2012 11:43 PM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
What I'm curious about: I've heard that William Hartnell had a reputation mainly as tough guys and drill-sergeant types, and getting cast as an eccentric, grandfatherly scientist/traveller was rather against type for him. So it might be interesting to get to see some of his representative work pre-Who.

Wereghost September 24 2012 12:07 AM

Re: When I see people who have played the doctor in stuff
 
^ I think Hartnell was in the first Carry On movie too. The Doctor was certainly something of a departure for him, as he was playing a dotty and somewhat sinister old man, although Hartnell himself was only in his mid fifties.

(Edit: Just checked the Wikipedia entry for Carry On Sergeant. He gets first billing on the poster!


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