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E-DUB September 20 2012 03:42 AM

Equinox question
 
Maybe this has been brought up before but it's bugged me since I saw this episode. Why did The Doctor delete the Equinox EMH instead of merely deactivating him. Seems to me that they could have done so to the same effect and while he/it was offline restored the ethics programming the absence of which turned him into a holographic Mengele. Then Voyager would have had the back-up EMH they always said they wanted.

teacake September 20 2012 03:49 AM

Re: Equinox question
 
The Doctor with.. an equal?! That will never do.

Guy Gardener September 20 2012 04:01 AM

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From a deactivated the state the Doctor, "an" EMH can reactivate himself into working order.

The Doctor acts irrationally to make his patients feel at ease, a function of his personality which he cannot turn off, otherwise he wouldn't be solving voyagers woes at human speeds and otherhuman limitations.

Dream September 20 2012 04:07 AM

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They already made a backup EMH as shown in Living Witness.

The Borg Queen September 20 2012 04:13 AM

Re: Equinox question
 
To give Robert Picardo less screen time.

Guy Gardener September 20 2012 04:33 AM

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Or save him from half a pay check if he'd be paid the same for twice the work.

R. Star September 20 2012 05:03 AM

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Quote:

teacake wrote: (Post 6987802)
The Doctor with.. an equal?! That will never do.

The Doctor could have shrunk his holographic matrix like in.. I think it was the Cloud where he was shrinking.

Then he could call him Mini Me. This is a terrible missed oppurtunity.

Guy Gardener September 20 2012 05:26 AM

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I preferred the huge-him in Basics.

"MMMMMMMMMMMMMMan Overboard!"

teacake September 20 2012 05:49 AM

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Quote:

R. Star wrote: (Post 6988036)
Quote:

teacake wrote: (Post 6987802)
The Doctor with.. an equal?! That will never do.

The Doctor could have shrunk his holographic matrix like in.. I think it was the Cloud where he was shrinking.

Then he could call him Mini Me. This is a terrible missed oppurtunity.

Great, all he would need is a cat and we'd have descended to TNG triteness :lol:

Bry_Sinclair September 20 2012 06:04 AM

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Quote:

Guy Gardener wrote: (Post 6987841)
From a deactivated the state the Doctor, "an" EMH can reactivate himself into working order.

Voyager's EMH was the only one with the ability to turn himself on and off. I suppose with the Equinox programme transferred to Voyager he would have the same ability, but I doubt he would know about it, seeing as it was a unique feature.

As for why he deleted the "evil twin", well, it wouldn't do to have a duplicate when it came to all the crap about holographic rights, proving that holograms are mass-manufactured, programmable tools.

Tiberius September 20 2012 06:10 AM

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Quote:

Guy Gardener wrote: (Post 6988123)
I preferred the huge-him in Basics.

"MMMMMMMMMMMMMMan Overboard!"

How do you know he was huge?

Guy Gardener September 20 2012 07:47 AM

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He wasn't huge?

He was being projected into space by the same parabolic mirrors that were projecting the fake starships, which were huge... But it has been a while and my memory makes fun of me for sport.

Tiberius September 21 2012 01:36 AM

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But that argument only applies if the original images of the ships were small and they were using the mirrors to enlarge them. Being parabolic, it would seem to me that the mirrors were being used to focus the images and project them into space, not enlarge them.

After all, wouldn't that be like enlarging a picture in photoshop? Sure, it gets larger, but it also gets more pixelated.

I can just imagine the Kazon saying, "No, those Talaxian ships are fake! I can tell by the pixels!"

Guy Gardener September 21 2012 02:21 AM

Re: Equinox question
 
Well he appears to be regular sized, although I would have assumed that the disrupter beam used by the kazon would be much larger compared a human being sized mass.

Quote:

EMH [on monitor]: I would humbly submit that my programme is far more sophisticated than your run of the mill hologram. In fact, projecting the illusion of a large, three-dimensional object has been a trick of magicians for centuries.
PARIS: We'll just do it with mirrors.
EMH [on monitor]: Mister Paris's predictable attempts at humour notwithstanding, that is precisely what I would suggest. Installing holo-emitters along the hull with parabolic mirrors to enlarge the images as they are reflected into space.
KIM: We're going to use up a lot of our power reserves trying to pull it off.
Depending on the focal length, where you're making the hologram "appear" would indicate the size of the holograms., and since they wanted a huge ship, it would be odd that a regular sized doctor would come up out the other side of holographic manifestation that was supposed to be the size of a starship...

Oh.

His ego.

Got it.

Timewalker September 21 2012 09:28 AM

Re: Equinox question
 
They'd have had a backup EMH program. They wouldn't have had the DOCTOR - his life experiences, the things he'd learned about how to get along with people, in essence, his personality.

And who knows how much damage the Equinox EMH went through besides his ethical subroutines being deactivated? They would have to completely delete all his memories of ever having done evil things, or he'd never be able to function - nor would anybody ever be able to trust him.


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