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Reverend September 18 2012 02:29 AM

Dragon Age III: Inquisition
 
Nobody expects the Orlesian inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise!...and cheese wheels!


Yeah, not a huge shock, but at least things are "officially" moving forward. Nice to hear they're paying attention to the fans *before* they release the game (take note Mass Effect team!) and with a bit of luck--and by luck I mean EA being satisfied that it'll have co-op and leave the rest of the game alone--the third game will strike a nice balance between DA:O & DA:II.

Skywalker September 18 2012 02:43 AM

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I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with this new engine. And I'm morbidly curious about how they intend to implement multiplayer. Most importantly, though, I hope they have enough time to actually finish the game and write a solid, varied ending. No more of these one-size-fits-all endings we got in DA2 and ME3, please.

Reverend September 18 2012 09:41 AM

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I think they already made it clear before multiplayer was confirmed that "if" they were to do it, the model to emulate would be Balder's Gate II. IIRC the way that worked was for everyone to create specific characters for the co-op rather than import their SP character. When it comes to conversations they'll probably use something similar to the dice-roll system from The Old Republic. Not sure how recruited NPCs would work though.

Camren September 18 2012 10:01 AM

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If it's anything like DA2 I won't be touching this. I only played the previous game for a few hours before getting tired of it. That was a shocking effort from Bioware. Why they decided to go all 'Mass Effect' on Dragon Age I don't know. The original game was great, the style and engine was fine, as was the gamers ability to mod the crap out of it.
Hope they bring all that was good about DA:O to the 3rd game because I saw absolutely none of that in DA2.

The Mirrorball Man September 18 2012 10:16 AM

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I liked Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2, despite their shortcomings, and I hope the third installment takes the best aspects from both games.

Reverend September 18 2012 10:17 AM

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The only things they really borrowed from ME was a modified dialogue wheel and a voiced main character. Aside from the odd poorly implemented paraphrase, neither of these really detracted from the game for me.

The main problems DA2 had were 1) limited time ad resources in the development stage resources which resulted the endlessly recycled environments. 2) A lack of agency as a result of the decision to tell a multi-chapter story without the aforementioned resources to tell a truly branching story. And 3) a combat system that while fun, eliminated any real strategic planning by having enemies come in wave and even drop out of thin air.

From what I've heard so far, they appear to have a firm grip on what was wrong with DA2 and what does and (just as importantly) does not need fixing.

John Clark September 18 2012 03:39 PM

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Even with any faults with recent games from Bioware, this will still most likely be a pre-order for me.

Of course, I'll keep an eye out on all the information (barring story line) that comes out about and that may change, but given how much I enjoyed ME1-3, DAO and DA2, I don't expect things to change too much.

Delsaber September 18 2012 08:37 PM

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I expect Inquisition will mirror Mass Effect 3 in a sense, by balancing the heavier mechanics of the original game with the streamlining of its first sequel. Can't wait to hear more about the new engine.

I'm not as concerned about the story; for all its shortcomings, DA2 still (mostly) delivered plot-wise and excelled at characterization. Sure, the Qunari thread was relatively pointless, and the multi-year transitions mishandled, but the implications of the endgame hours and that cliffhanger? Enticing as hell. Loved the framing device too, though I doubt Bioware will draw from that well again.

Multiplayer? I'll probably just ignore it. Hard to imagine how that will work, especially without knowing more about the engine. I'm hoping it'll be co-op centric, or even better, asynchronous or otherwise largely passive, perhaps along the lines of Demon's/Dark Souls.

clint g September 18 2012 08:57 PM

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Delsaber wrote: (Post 6980773)
I expect Inquisition will mirror Mass Effect 3 in a sense, by balancing the heavier mechanics of the original game with the streamlining of its first sequel. Can't wait to hear more about the new engine.

I'm not as concerned about the story; for all its shortcomings, DA2 still (mostly) delivered plot-wise and excelled at characterization. Sure, the Qunari thread was relatively pointless, and the multi-year transitions mishandled, but the implications of the endgame hours and that cliffhanger? Enticing as hell. Loved the framing device too, though I doubt Bioware will draw from that well again.

Multiplayer? I'll probably just ignore it. Hard to imagine how that will work, especially without knowing more about the engine. I'm hoping it'll be co-op centric, or even better, asynchronous or otherwise largely passive, perhaps along the lines of Demon's/Dark Souls.

This pretty much sums up my view. That said, if this was 2010 I would have dropped a pre-order on this in a heartbeat. BioWare's recent track record has pretty much killed that though.

Delsaber September 18 2012 09:31 PM

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In related news: BioWare co-founders Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk have retired.

As expected, the comments are swimming with "R.I.P. Bioware" and "evil EA", because people on the internet are known for their measured, contemplative responses. If I had a crystal ball, I think I'd use it for better purposes, y'know?

Who knows what the future holds for Bioware now, but...

Quote:

Zeschuk’s future project entails entering the craft beer industry with a web-based interview show called The Beer Diaries.
Score!

Briquettes September 18 2012 09:46 PM

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I just can't bring myself to get excited about this. DA:O is one of my favorite games ever and DA2 was so disappointing. Unless I hear some stellar word of mouth I think I'll wait for the inevitable $10 Amazon sale, even if that means waiting 6 months after release to play.

Reverend September 18 2012 10:54 PM

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As expected, the comments are swimming with "R.I.P. Bioware" and "evil EA", because people on the internet are known for their measured, contemplative responses. If I had a crystal ball, I think I'd use it for better purposes, y'know?
^In defence of such irrational doom-sayers, EA does have a bit of a habit of obliterating many the otherwise respected and/or successful independent studios it's acquired over the years. And let's be realistic here, this sudden and unexpected dual retirement doesn't really engender much optimism.

Delsaber September 18 2012 10:58 PM

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Agreed. Though in this case, I would like to imagine that Bioware is too prestigious and historically relevant to be put out to pasture, Westwood style.

...of course, I said exactly that about Sony and Psygnosis/Studio Liverpool, so maybe I shouldn't tempt the universe any further. My bad, guys.

Reverend September 19 2012 12:03 AM

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Westwood, Bullfrog, Origin, Pandemic...remember those? Prestigious? Check. Historically relevant? Check. Gone the way of the dodo? Quadruple check.
Actually, come to think of it remember that really good, respectable studio called Electronic Arts? They used to be great. It's somewhat tragic in a way. EA's first victim was...EA.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, I mean you never know right? Maybe the EA boss man just thinks "EA Edmonton" is a dumb name for a studio. But Bioware's founders suddenly beating a hasty exit is just the latest in a long line of warning signs, red flags, bad omens, alarm bells, S.O.S calls and cries of "iceberg dead ahead!" to come out of Bioware since EA took over.

I'm not saying it's time to give up all hope, but all the same, I think I'm going to stay up on deck near the lifeboats and if I hear so much as the first three notes of 'Nearer, My God, to Thee', I'm not hanging around to see how it all turns out. ;)

Delsaber September 19 2012 12:09 AM

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*sigh* I still mourn for Pandemic to this day. The original Mercenaries is one of my favourite games of all time.


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