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BizarroStormy September 15 2012 09:05 PM

The Top 40 Male Film Lead Actors of all Time
 
It's self-explanatory. Poisonous barbs will only be enacted if one of my particular personal favorites is unjustifiably besmirched or something. Read it, learn it, defrost and debate it. Make your counter list. Even a counter-number if you desire. Whatever. Life is too short. If you like or dislike the choice, explaining why reinforces the debate and adds to the taste. The top all-time best actress ever is clearly Genevieve Bujold, so why list the runners-up?

The three all-time worst ever male actors are also painfully clear: Steven Seagal, Jack Black and Robert Mitchum, one two three. Moving onto the factors in by best 40 choices.....

a. longevity
b. talent
c. badassery
d. character actor excellence in lead roles
e. cultural impact

Many may not have all five of these qualities, but most or all possess three or more of them. So I doubt they'll be too many surprises here. None of the five qualities are judged as more important than each other.....either they have it or they don't. So.....

40. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

JarodRussell September 15 2012 10:09 PM

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1. Clint Eastwood

He matches all your 5 criteria, and then some.

MacLeod September 15 2012 10:23 PM

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Sean Connery

J.T.B. September 15 2012 10:49 PM

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This is a subject that I'd enjoy engaging in, but making it into a days-long, one-name-at-a-time project pretty much kills my interest.

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foxhot wrote: (Post 6966955)
The three all-time worst ever male actors are also painfully clear: Steven Seagal, Jack Black and Robert Mitchum, one two three.

Considering the many thousands of actors who have appeared on film, the word "clear" seems singularly mis-applied.

Justin

gturner September 15 2012 10:56 PM

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Keanu Reeves (Matrix, Speed, some other crap)
Hayden Christensen (Darth Vader!)
Jean-Claude Van Damme or Dolph Lundgren
Shia LeBeouf (Transformers, Surf's Up)
Christian Slater
Jason Alexander (George!)
Tim Allen (Tool Time and Galaxy Quest)
Steve Gutenberg
Pauly Shore
Matt Leblanc
Michael Keaton (Batman)
Joe Piscopo

Kirkman1987 September 15 2012 11:12 PM

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I think Clint Eastwood is very solid choice. I would also nominate James Stewart.

the G-man September 15 2012 11:27 PM

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Eastwood, Stewart, Newman and Bogart are 1-4. We can quibble about the order but there's the top four.

gturner September 15 2012 11:28 PM

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Oh, best actors, not worst actors.

My bad.

James Stewart
Clint Eastwood
Cary Grant (not particularly badass, but influential for years)
John Wayne (not sure about talent, but he maxes out on badassery, influence, etc)
Harrison Ford
Robert DeNiro
Al Pacino
James Cagney
Marlon Brando
George C Scott
Jack Nicholson
Michael Caine

DarKush September 16 2012 12:09 AM

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Denzel Washington
Samuel L. Jackson
Tom Cruise
Liam Neeson
Bruce Willis
Russell Crowe
Sylvester Stallone (Hey, he won an Oscar and he had a major impact in the action genre)

M'Sharak September 16 2012 01:21 AM

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foxhot wrote: (Post 6966955)

The three all-time worst ever male actors are also painfully clear: Steven Seagal, Jack Black and Robert Mitchum, one two three.

I'll give you Steven Seagal, there—he's got no range and, like, one facial expression—but I think you're off on the other two. (I don't even like Jack Black in some of the roles I've watched him play, but he's nowhere near "worst ever"; Mitchum's just fine as an actor, and occasionally outstanding.)

Professor Zoom September 16 2012 01:29 AM

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M'Sharak wrote: (Post 6967945)
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foxhot wrote: (Post 6966955)

The three all-time worst ever male actors are also painfully clear: Steven Seagal, Jack Black and Robert Mitchum, one two three.

I'll give you Steven Seagal, there—he's got no range and, like, one facial expression—but I think you're off on the other two. (I don't even like Jack Black in some of the roles I've watched him play, but he's nowhere near "worst ever"; Mitchum's just fine as an actor, and occasionally outstanding.)

Night of the Hunter. Stunning.

BizarroStormy September 16 2012 02:03 AM

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Occasionally.
His CAPE FEAR remake cameo was excellent, and no argument on NIGHT OF THE HUNTER. THE YAKUZA was also very enjoyable. But, I prefer lead actors to seem awake 100 percent of the time, and I found him rather droning in THE WINDS OF WAR plus other later roles. His famous quote was ''Baby, I don't care.'' So, why should we?:cool:

Obviously he's better than Seagal and Black. You could say he's my least favorite classic major lead.

''Character actor excellence in lead roles'' requires a bit more elaboration. For me it's not playing memorable characters in itself, but having a chameleonic variety in which the actor may not be as recognizable as his character. So I'm not convinced Eastwood, Robert Redford or other ''unmistakable'' famous actors qualify for that fifth category.

Greg Cox September 16 2012 02:14 AM

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Professor Zoom wrote: (Post 6967963)
Night of the Hunter. Stunning.

Amen.

And I'm going to nominate . . . Peter Cushing.

C'mon, he played Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Van Helsing, Sherlock Holmes, Dr. Who, Moff Tarkin, and starred in countless other horror and sf films.

And as for badassery . . . the man killed Count Dracula (three times!), shot the Hound of the Baskervilles, Created Woman, visited the Earth's Core, survived the Island of Terror, and blew up Alderaan.

I'd like to see Clint Eastwood top that! :)

Creepy Critter September 16 2012 02:17 AM

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M'Sharak wrote: (Post 6967945)
Quote:

foxhot wrote: (Post 6966955)

The three all-time worst ever male actors are also painfully clear: Steven Seagal, Jack Black and Robert Mitchum, one two three.

I'll give you Steven Seagal, there—he's got no range and, like, one facial expression—but I think you're off on the other two. (I don't even like Jack Black in some of the roles I've watched him play, but he's nowhere near "worst ever"; Mitchum's just fine as an actor, and occasionally outstanding.)

Yeah, the OP has a real WTF thing going on here.

Temis the Vorta September 16 2012 02:37 AM

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gturner wrote: (Post 6967549)
Oh, best actors, not worst actors.

My bad.

James Stewart
Clint Eastwood
Cary Grant (not particularly badass, but influential for years)
John Wayne (not sure about talent, but he maxes out on badassery, influence, etc)
Harrison Ford
Robert DeNiro
Al Pacino
James Cagney
Marlon Brando
George C Scott
Jack Nicholson
Michael Caine

Good list, but I'd add

James Dean
Paul Newman
Clark Gable
Spencer Tracy
Gregory Peck
Henry Fonda
Kirk Douglas
Steve McQueen - coolest badass of all! Am I really the first person to mention him?


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