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davejames September 14 2012 01:51 AM

Lincoln Full Trailer
 
Wow, this is looking just as good as I was hoping. Daniel Day Lewis looks amazing in the role, and I love the more historically accurate high voice he's using. For once it feels like you're watching a real human being and not just a larger than life icon.

Hopefully Spielberg will resist the urge to get overly sappy and sentimental though, as he did with War Horse. That was the first movie of his in a while that I just couldn't finish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSAb...layer_embedded

foxhot September 14 2012 02:02 AM

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I'm deliberately NOT seeing the trailer to keep myself in the dark as long as possible. But I'm still curious what role Tommy Lee Jones will play, and if he's included in the trailer....

If he were in Ford's Theater watching J.W. Booth do the despicable deed, would he yell ''STOP THAT MAN!!!''

Or if he were the coroner, would he yell a singsong ''THAAAA President IZZZZZ da-yed!!!!''

At least he's not Lincoln. If Jones were doing the Gettysburg Address the audience would be blown off their feet by his
''FOURSCORE AND SEVENYEARSAGO!!!!!!!''

I just can't help myself.:rolleyes:

CaptainCanada September 14 2012 02:19 AM

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Interesting that they went with the more historically-accurate higher pitch for Lincoln's voice.

Also, Tommy Lee Jones' historically-accurate horrible haircut.

cardinal biggles September 14 2012 02:20 AM

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^^Tommy Lee Jones plays Thaddeus Stevens.

The cast list for Lincoln looks incredible, and not just the three leads. Joseph Gordon-Levitt, David Strathairn, James Spader, Jared Harris... this movie has Oscar written all over it.

Dream September 14 2012 02:26 AM

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Lincoln dies at the end.

HA! I just spoiled it for all of you! :p

Locutus of Bored September 14 2012 02:38 AM

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That looks like it's going to be amazing. I can't think of a director more suited to the task and an actor more suited to play Lincoln. Might as well just give them their Oscars now and save the time. This is right up there with The Hobbit in terms of films I'm most looking forward to seeing.

Flying Spaghetti Monster September 14 2012 02:48 AM

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What I didn't like was the tendency in the trailer to have so many fades.. that we can't watch more than three seconds of action play out before we are enveloped in total darkness. This trend happens all the time in trailers and is not limited to this film, but it usually happens in trailers for movies that think of themselves as somehow more important or more deserving. I hate it. Are they afraid to just let us watch something? Are they afraid of brave trailer editing that I think was actually much better five years ago than it is now?

Temis the Vorta September 14 2012 03:16 AM

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That looks terrific! But yeah I agree about the fadeouts, is that Speilberg's answer to lense flares and shakey-cam? :p

I'm even more curious to see Straitharn's performance as Seward.

stj September 14 2012 03:27 AM

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More important than Spielberg's direction is Spielberg's production. And more important than that is Tony Kushner's script. No one should be shocked that Kushner isn't left enough to earn my adulation but the man has a clue about reality. I have to see this movie in a theater.

Drago-Kazov September 14 2012 10:07 AM

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The trailer looked prety standard. The cast looks more interesting.

Ethros September 14 2012 11:05 AM

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Does he kill any vampires in it?

Robert Maxwell September 14 2012 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote: (Post 6958201)
What I didn't like was the tendency in the trailer to have so many fades.. that we can't watch more than three seconds of action play out before we are enveloped in total darkness. This trend happens all the time in trailers and is not limited to this film, but it usually happens in trailers for movies that think of themselves as somehow more important or more deserving. I hate it. Are they afraid to just let us watch something? Are they afraid of brave trailer editing that I think was actually much better five years ago than it is now?

What would you have preferred, a techno soundtrack with cuts every half second?

Flying Spaghetti Monster September 14 2012 04:57 PM

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Robert Maxwell wrote: (Post 6960127)
Quote:

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote: (Post 6958201)
What I didn't like was the tendency in the trailer to have so many fades.. that we can't watch more than three seconds of action play out before we are enveloped in total darkness. This trend happens all the time in trailers and is not limited to this film, but it usually happens in trailers for movies that think of themselves as somehow more important or more deserving. I hate it. Are they afraid to just let us watch something? Are they afraid of brave trailer editing that I think was actually much better five years ago than it is now?

What would you have preferred, a techno soundtrack with cuts every half second?

Obviously, no. But I would have preferred to actually see something. I'm sure that probably one quarter of the actual running time of this trailer is a black screen or a screen that is almost black. These scene transitions take precious seconds away, and they are more precious because we are only talking about two minutes or less of screen time - and some of that is taken away by titles and all of that. But it seems that the current strategy is to show a shot, one shot, to give us merely a glimpse of it, then fade it into black, then fade in another single shot, face that into black.. the actual time for fading is not only wasted time (I will saw that fading can be a useful tool in a trailer but like all tools it should be used sparingly and wisely) but even fading back to another shot is also something that takes a lot of time. What's more disturbing is that these fades often don't lead to more than a few seconds, may a single shot or two shots, of screentime. My eyes are just adjusting to a shot and then it fades out. These trailer editors are trying to hurt my eyes or something.

davejames September 14 2012 04:57 PM

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To be fair, this is one instance when I think the subject matter kind of deserves to be treated with some weight and importance-- and I think the trailer reflects that.

I mean, we're talking about Abraham Lincoln, the Civil War, and the emancipation of the slaves here.

Flying Spaghetti Monster September 14 2012 04:59 PM

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Of course it deserves to be treated that way.. but treating it that way doesn't mean that we should have a quarter of the trailer... and every succeeding shot be draped in fading darkness... it might actually be more powerful to show us something, to let our eyes focus on what's going on!


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