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blssdwlf September 13 2012 03:52 AM

Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Well after cobbling together a TOS-era Defiant-type ship I decided to whip up a Miranda/Reliant version as well.

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...001-output.jpg

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...001-output.jpg

sbk1234 September 13 2012 04:13 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
These are really cool.

blssdwlf September 13 2012 09:24 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
@sbk1234 - Thanks :)

Some refinements on the TOS Miranda...

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...002-output.jpg

CorporalCaptain September 13 2012 10:10 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Nice.

So, how are you handling the main deflector? Are you going to just say to heck with it, it's not on the TWOK Reliant either?

Mytran September 13 2012 12:29 PM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Wasn't the big dish more of a main sensor than a deflector in TOS, anyway? Whenever deflectors are mentiontioned in TOS it is always in the plural, suggesting a variety of systems.

The notion of a single deflector dish is very much a TNG thing

As regards your ship designs, Blssdwlf, they look very nice! I particularly like the inclusion of the clamshell shuttlebay doors on the back of the Reliant, it really grounds the design in that period.

blssdwlf September 13 2012 01:43 PM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
@CorporalCaptain - Bingo. The Reliant doesn't have it (and all her type continue not to have one even thru DS9 :) )

@Mytran - Thanks :D I agree, the whole "deflector dish" is a TNG thing. You are correct that in TOS (and TOS movies) the deflectors are mentioned in plural (plus they fly around sideways and backwards at warp necessitating 360 protection.) The big dish I attributed it as part of the sensor equipment. I'm not finished with the placement of the nacelle pylons and rollbar but happy with the aft hull shape.

CorporalCaptain September 13 2012 06:50 PM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Excellent. :techman:

blssdwlf September 14 2012 04:04 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Re-positioned the rollbar and nacelle pylons. I think this will be their final positions...

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...003-output.jpg

Tiberius September 14 2012 07:12 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Looking good.

Kaiser September 14 2012 05:03 PM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Good stuff there :)

blssdwlf September 15 2012 03:25 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
@Tiberius and Kaiser - Thanks :)

Some more cleaning up of the aft hull...

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...004-output.jpg

blssdwlf September 15 2012 05:32 AM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
Last one for tonight.

WIPs for
Kirk's TOS Enterprise
Pre-Pike Enterprise (as seen on computer monitor)
TOS Miranda/Reliant
TOS Destroyer (based on Jester class, modeled by Forbin)
TOS Escort (based on DS9 Defiant)
TOS Attack Craft

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...020-output.jpg

blssdwlf September 16 2012 06:23 PM

Re: Blssdwlf's TOS and TOS Movie Era ships
 
and while I was thinking about it, a TOS Constellation-class.

http://www.fightingstarships.info/fi...001-output.jpg

Kaiser September 16 2012 09:51 PM

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Looks cool :)

JES September 16 2012 11:27 PM

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I think that the interconnecting dorsal and ventral appendages that hold up the nacelle pylons would be more akin to the neck of most class one starships, only facing in "reverse". Not exact, because looking at the Constellation class (refit), the interconnections really only have a passing resemblance.

Other then that, I think you have a really good start on the pre-refit Constellation class.

I have typically thought at first that the Constellation class as she first appeared was what she pretty much looked like at launch, but other TOS-era Constellation models have opened me up to the possibility, and the Constellation kitbashed, greebled look suggests a vessel not in her original design specs. That and the fact that the Enterprise was to be decommissioned at around the same time (ST III) or earlier that the Constellation class was supposed to be in service.

I still think that mostly only the earlier examples would have been built in this configuration, with later examples with higher registries such as the Stargazer probably being built in refit configuration, or in a "Phase II" configuration, but if the Larson and Loknar classes can originate in the TOS-era, so can the Constellation class.


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