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GalaxyClass1701 September 6 2012 03:11 PM

Uss achilles from Voyager Fleet??
 
How do you picture this ship and has anyone done a sketch?

I picture a wedge shaped sauce like Prometheus with basically a large boxy cargo container as they rest of the ship with under slung warp nacelles.

NrobbieC September 6 2012 04:29 PM

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sounds like you're describing this
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...type_model.jpg

GalaxyClass1701 September 6 2012 04:50 PM

Re: Uss achilles from Voyager Fleet??
 
It has to be big enough to fit a Vesta class vessel inside so I picture the star drive being more like a cargo container.

Scout101 September 6 2012 04:50 PM

Re: Uss achilles from Voyager Fleet??
 
I'm stuck with it essentially looking like the Achilles class from the Dominion Wars game, and then just scaled to match the massive description...

We'll see if we can get more pictures of ships in the fleet while there still IS a fleet!

Mage September 6 2012 07:49 PM

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GalaxyClass1701 wrote: (Post 6919481)
It has to be big enough to fit a Vesta class vessel inside so I picture the star drive being more like a cargo container.

It was never suggested that a Vesta could fit inside I believe.

Christopher September 6 2012 09:12 PM

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^That's right; Quirinal was repaired on the surface of a planet.

Mage September 6 2012 09:24 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 6920717)
^That's right; Quirinal was repaired on the surface of a planet.


Exactly. If memory serves, CotS states in the Appendice somewhere that Achilles was just over 900 meters or so... if I recall correctly. With a Vesta about the same length as a Sovereign, the Achilles would need to be over 1500 meters if it could not only fit in a Vesta, but also house crew and equipment needed to service and repair a ship. Not to mention everything needed just to operate and maintain the Achilles herself, like warpdrive, fusion reactors, crewquarters, stuff like that....

*EDIT*
Just checked on Memory Beta: http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mulciber_class

960 meters long. There's no way the ship is big enough to house a Vesta class inside.

bfollowell September 7 2012 12:00 AM

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Mage wrote: (Post 6920789)
Exactly. If memory serves, CotS states in the Appendice somewhere that Achilles was just over 900 meters or so... if I recall correctly. With a Vesta about the same length as a Sovereign, the Achilles would need to be over 1500 meters if it could not only fit in a Vesta, but also house crew and equipment needed to service and repair a ship. Not to mention everything needed just to operate and maintain the Achilles herself, like warpdrive, fusion reactors, crewquarters, stuff like that....


It wasn't in either of the appendices but it may've been in the text. You're right though, there's no way it was that long.

- Byron

Methos September 7 2012 12:10 AM

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A ship big enough to fit a Vesta inside... i'd have remembered that lol

Vesta is 672 meters long, 195 meters wide, and 88 meters tall... any ship that could hold a Vesta in it's cargo bay would be about 3 to 4 times the size of a Soverign class, and would be a true 'dreadnaught' in Star Trek...

You're talking about a ship that would be about half the size of a Borg cube length, 3,040 meters, and i'm pretty sure there isn't a ship in Starfleet that can boast that lol

M

Markonian September 7 2012 04:31 PM

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Based on the description I imagined a scaled-up Star Cruiser from STO.

http://www.stowiki.org/Star_Cruiser

Mage September 7 2012 08:50 PM

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Markonian wrote: (Post 6924824)
Based on the description I imagined a scaled-up Star Cruiser from STO.

http://www.stowiki.org/Star_Cruiser


Actually makes sense in a way. Not a big fan of the STO ships, but this one's kinda cool.

Markonian September 8 2012 01:11 PM

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Mage wrote: (Post 6925997)
Actually makes sense in a way. Not a big fan of the STO ships, but this one's kinda cool.

Size and shape fit the decription given in CotS: Fused neck, elongated hull, upswept pylons with massive nacelles.
Until Mark Rademaker has designed the Achilles, I picture is as Avenger-class. :bolian:

Christopher September 8 2012 02:37 PM

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^What's an Avenger class? That used to be the fan name for the Reliant type, what TNG ultimately dubbed the Miranda class, but it certainly doesn't fit the description there.

craig keith September 8 2012 03:49 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 6929128)
^What's an Avenger class? That used to be the fan name for the Reliant type, what TNG ultimately dubbed the Miranda class, but it certainly doesn't fit the description there.

I believe the avenger class is from STO but not 100% sure

Mage September 8 2012 04:00 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 6929128)
^What's an Avenger class? That used to be the fan name for the Reliant type, what TNG ultimately dubbed the Miranda class, but it certainly doesn't fit the description there.


It's one of the ships in the link a few posts above yours. One of the starcruisers from STO appereantly. It fits the description of Achilles somewhat.


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