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RB_Kandy September 2 2012 07:02 AM

Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
I am not a very experienced writer. I am currently writing a TOS fan fiction that will be 20 to 30 pages long. My problem is, I am trying to write a sub plot where Spock is in command of the bridge, and Scotty is trying to fix the engines.
In order to establish a lot of dialogue between Scotty and Spock, I need to mention a lot of techno babble.

example, Spock says "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour."

"Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed the X was merely misaligned, but it turns out that it's not just the X but also the X, the whole thing burnt out and welded itself together, I can't even get to it until I remove the X."

"well how long will this take?"

"honestly sir, 1 to 5 hours"

"that's a considerable margin of error."

"well it will be an additional hour to repair the X, but if the cause of the entire malfunction is X, I will have to completely dismantle the X, recalibrate by hand, re-assemble the X, bleed the X dry, and run low level diagnostics. The diagnostics alone is going to be 45 minutes, if I skip those, there's a greater chance X will blow up all of engineering than actually bringing warp drive back on. And my two best officers are in sick bay, sir"

In the above statements, all of the X's need to be filled in with technobabble and jargon. But I don't know how to do this.

I wish I knew more about TOS engineering. Are there any resources that get into some TOS technobabble or theory of how the ship runs?

teacake September 2 2012 07:05 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
There is a fanfiction forum here:

http://www.trekbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

That's where to ask those things :)

Tiberius September 2 2012 08:01 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
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RB_Kandy wrote: (Post 6899222)
I am not a very experienced writer. I am currently writing a TOS fan fiction that will be 20 to 30 pages long. My problem is, I am trying to write a sub plot where Spock is in command of the bridge, and Scotty is trying to fix the engines.
In order to establish a lot of dialogue between Scotty and Spock, I need to mention a lot of techno babble.

example, Spock says "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour."

"Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed the X was merely misaligned, but it turns out that it's not just the X but also the X, the whole thing burnt out and welded itself together, I can't even get to it until I remove the X."

"well how long will this take?"

"honestly sir, 1 to 5 hours"

"that's a considerable margin of error."

"well it will be an additional hour to repair the X, but if the cause of the entire malfunction is X, I will have to completely dismantle the X, recalibrate by hand, re-assemble the X, bleed the X dry, and run low level diagnostics. The diagnostics alone is going to be 45 minutes, if I skip those, there's a greater chance X will blow up all of engineering than actually bringing warp drive back on. And my two best officers are in sick bay, sir"

In the above statements, all of the X's need to be filled in with technobabble and jargon. But I don't know how to do this.

I wish I knew more about TOS engineering. Are there any resources that get into some TOS technobabble or theory of how the ship runs?

My suggestion...

Spock says "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour."

"Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed the plasma conduit was merely misaligned, but it turns out that it's not just the plasma conduit but also the plasma converter, the whole thing burnt out and welded itself together, I can't even get to it until I remove the theta matrix compositor.."

"well how long will this take?"

"honestly sir, 12 to 15 hours"

"that's a considerable margin of error."

"well it will be an additional hour to repair the plasma conduit, but if the cause of the entire malfunction is back in the bowels of the ship, I will have to completely dismantle the plasma distribution manifold, recalibrate by hand, re-assemble the compositor, bleed the conduits dry, and run low level diagnostics. The diagnostics alone is going to be 45 minutes, if I skip those, there's a greater chance the whole thing will blow up all of engineering than actually bringing warp drive back on. And my two best officers are in sick bay, sir"

RB_Kandy September 2 2012 08:07 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
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Tiberius wrote: (Post 6899348)
Quote:

RB_Kandy wrote: (Post 6899222)
I am not a very experienced writer. I am currently writing a TOS fan fiction that will be 20 to 30 pages long. My problem is, I am trying to write a sub plot where Spock is in command of the bridge, and Scotty is trying to fix the engines.
In order to establish a lot of dialogue between Scotty and Spock, I need to mention a lot of techno babble.

example, Spock says "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour."

"Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed the X was merely misaligned, but it turns out that it's not just the X but also the X, the whole thing burnt out and welded itself together, I can't even get to it until I remove the X."

"well how long will this take?"

"honestly sir, 1 to 5 hours"

"that's a considerable margin of error."

"well it will be an additional hour to repair the X, but if the cause of the entire malfunction is X, I will have to completely dismantle the X, recalibrate by hand, re-assemble the X, bleed the X dry, and run low level diagnostics. The diagnostics alone is going to be 45 minutes, if I skip those, there's a greater chance X will blow up all of engineering than actually bringing warp drive back on. And my two best officers are in sick bay, sir"

In the above statements, all of the X's need to be filled in with technobabble and jargon. But I don't know how to do this.

I wish I knew more about TOS engineering. Are there any resources that get into some TOS technobabble or theory of how the ship runs?

My suggestion...

Spock says "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour."

"Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed the plasma conduit was merely misaligned, but it turns out that it's not just the plasma conduit but also the plasma converter, the whole thing burnt out and welded itself together, I can't even get to it until I remove the theta matrix compositor.."

"well how long will this take?"

"honestly sir, 12 to 15 hours"

"that's a considerable margin of error."

"well it will be an additional hour to repair the plasma conduit, but if the cause of the entire malfunction is back in the bowels of the ship, I will have to completely dismantle the plasma distribution manifold, recalibrate by hand, re-assemble the compositor, bleed the conduits dry, and run low level diagnostics. The diagnostics alone is going to be 45 minutes, if I skip those, there's a greater chance the whole thing will blow up all of engineering than actually bringing warp drive back on. And my two best officers are in sick bay, sir"

Brilliant, you are amazing.
we need a Wayne's World "we're not worthy" emoticon.

Tiberius September 2 2012 08:57 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
:D

Count Zero September 2 2012 02:25 PM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
I'm moving this to Fan Fiction where it belongs.

Timewalker September 3 2012 03:05 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
Scotty should just say, "Well, sir, everything is more f*cked up than it first appeared to be. I'll need _____ more hours minimum, and my two best officers are in Sickbay."


'Cause Spock would be right in pointing out that by the time Scotty got through the previous explanation, he could have had a lot of it already done. ;)

nightwind1 September 3 2012 05:05 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
TOS hardly EVER used technobabel. So I would suggest just keep it simple (if you want to sound as TOS-like as possible).

Maurice September 3 2012 05:34 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
First fo all, Spock would never say, "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour." In fact, it's as unSpocklike as can be, as is, "Well how long will this take?"

Also, I never saw Scotty give an estimate he had to back of like this. Assuming it did happen, in-character dialog would go more like this:

SPOCK: Mr. Scott, you stated that the repair would only take one hour.
SCOTTY: Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed the—
SPOCK: Assumptions are not not based on fact, Mr. Scott. I require a realistic figure.
SCOTT: Twelve to fifteen hours, sir.
SPOCK: That is considerable margin of error. Explain.

At which point Scott better damned well have a "logical" explanation.

sojourner September 3 2012 06:53 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
^The obvious next line by Mr. Scott would be, "Aye, sometimes there's a lot of error involved, sir."

Tiberius September 4 2012 02:57 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
lol, I can see him doing that!

Maurice September 5 2012 10:01 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
More to the point, you don't need the technobabble. All the reader needs to know is "it's broken" and this is how long it will take to fix.

Methos September 5 2012 10:06 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
sometimes technobabble makes the fic though...

characters like Scotty, are known for giving explanations that involve needlessly long words and details about the repairs... for him to simply say...

"Aye cap'n, repairs'll be two hours."

Would be out of character for him, where as him filling in the information with what is wrong and why, is far more fitting and in character... without little quirks like this, it could just be a nameless engineer on the ship answering the question, rather than a named and fleshed out character.

M

Chemahkuu September 5 2012 06:09 PM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
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Maurice wrote: (Post 6903296)
First fo all, Spock would never say, "I thought you said that repair would only take you an hour." In fact, it's as unSpocklike as can be, as is, "Well how long will this take?"

Also, I never saw Scotty give an estimate he had to back of like this. Assuming it did happen, in-character dialog would go more like this:

SPOCK: Mr. Scott, you stated that the repair would only take one hour.
SCOTTY: Aye, sir, that's when I had assumed theó
SPOCK: Assumptions are not not based on fact, Mr. Scott. I require a realistic figure.
SCOTT: Twelve to fifteen hours, sir.
SPOCK: That is considerable margin of error. Explain.

At which point Scott better damned well have a "logical" explanation.

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sojourner wrote: (Post 6903542)
^The obvious next line by Mr. Scott would be, "Aye, sometimes there's a lot of error involved, sir."

These, work just nicely and cut down on the babble and give a good badinage we're used to from TOS.

If you really must, maybe the Antimatter induction valves, it always seems to be something wrong with the antimatter in TOS.

Maurice September 21 2012 10:51 AM

Re: Need help with a TOS fan fic
 
Missed this before:
Quote:

Methos wrote: (Post 6913523)
sometimes technobabble makes the fic though...

characters like Scotty, are known for giving explanations that involve needlessly long words and details about the repairs...

Quote one such instance outside his appearance in TNG.

Compared to later engineers Scotty was a model of brevity.


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