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Mars August 28 2012 01:48 PM

A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Here's an interesting twist. What if there was a holodeck program called Lord of the Rings, and inside one of the holodecks a vulcan grew up in Rivendell, and when he reached adulthood, suddenly the program ended and the doors opened up to the rest of the ship? The Vulcan of course thinks he's an elf, he looks just like them, but all the other elves he knew were holodeck characters and only he were real. What do you suppose would happen next?

Nerys Myk August 28 2012 06:49 PM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
People on the ship would wonder how no one ever noticed there was a kid was trapped in a holodeck that apparently was running round the clock for several years.

teacake August 29 2012 10:00 AM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Without the training needed to suppress his emotions the Vulcan kid would have shoved a loaf of lembas down an elf's throat first time he got riled.

What is the Elven punishment for murder? Exile? The kid would never have found his way out.

Mars August 29 2012 04:25 PM

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teacake wrote: (Post 6878033)
Without the training needed to suppress his emotions the Vulcan kid would have shoved a loaf of lembas down an elf's throat first time he got riled.

What is the Elven punishment for murder? Exile? The kid would never have found his way out.

A vulcan would probably be no worse than a Romulan with telepathy, if he had emotions. Romulans are more distinguishable by their form of government, the Romulan Star Empire, than any racial characteristics.

Chemahkuu August 29 2012 07:16 PM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Enough with the crossover fanfic nonsense.

Mars August 30 2012 09:27 PM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Actually the Holodecks allow for crossover as an integral part of the setting, that's what they're there for! So sure, there could be a "Lord of the Rings" Holodeck program, this is not crossover, as the worlds simulated in the Holodeck are not real relative to the Star Trek setting, but any characters stuck in the Holodeck don't know that.

Methos August 30 2012 09:48 PM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...anhoe/spok.jpg

Spock is equally bemused and disturbed by this thread

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Nerys Myk August 30 2012 10:28 PM

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Mars wrote: (Post 6887588)
Actually the Holodecks allow for crossover as an integral part of the setting, that's what they're there for! So sure, there could be a "Lord of the Rings" Holodeck program, this is not crossover, as the worlds simulated in the Holodeck are not real relative to the Star Trek setting, but any characters stuck in the Holodeck don't know that.

The problem is the idea that a child would be trapped in a holo program for most of his life and that nobody would notice that a child was missing and there was holo program running non stop for years.

teacake August 30 2012 10:59 PM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Methos, that is oddly attractive.

Raising a child in a holodeck program and never telling him.. we got that in The Truman Show. But with holoprogramming you really could do a "what if.. LOTR?" and anything else. It would be pretty interesting.

I suggest we use Ocampans for this plan since they only live 9 years and rapidly mature.

Mars August 31 2012 02:38 AM

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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 6887963)
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Mars wrote: (Post 6887588)
Actually the Holodecks allow for crossover as an integral part of the setting, that's what they're there for! So sure, there could be a "Lord of the Rings" Holodeck program, this is not crossover, as the worlds simulated in the Holodeck are not real relative to the Star Trek setting, but any characters stuck in the Holodeck don't know that.

The problem is the idea that a child would be trapped in a holo program for most of his life and that nobody would notice that a child was missing and there was holo program running non stop for years.

Maybe he was the only one left alive on the ship, and say for instance the warp drive was destroyed and only impulse engines are working. The ship has one holodeck for family entertainment, and something happened to the child's parents.

Stranger things have happened in Star Trek.

teacake August 31 2012 02:40 AM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Yeah and when the ship is eventually found and boarded by rescuers they have to remove this poor kid from middle earth and explain it all to him. Maybe a Vulcan could cope with that, I doubt a human could.

There was that ENT ep where a kid was raised in a holodeck program by her father iirc.. and a DS9 ep but I think that was a solo thing. But those holo-worlds were at least set in those people's real worlds, not complete fiction.

Nerys Myk August 31 2012 03:04 AM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
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Mars wrote: (Post 6889238)
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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 6887963)
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Mars wrote: (Post 6887588)
Actually the Holodecks allow for crossover as an integral part of the setting, that's what they're there for! So sure, there could be a "Lord of the Rings" Holodeck program, this is not crossover, as the worlds simulated in the Holodeck are not real relative to the Star Trek setting, but any characters stuck in the Holodeck don't know that.

The problem is the idea that a child would be trapped in a holo program for most of his life and that nobody would notice that a child was missing and there was holo program running non stop for years.

Maybe he was the only one left alive on the ship, and say for instance the warp drive was destroyed and only impulse engines are working. The ship has one holodeck for family entertainment, and something happened to the child's parents.

Stranger things have happened in Star Trek.

Why would a Vulcan child young enough to forget his parents and background be in this holodeck? Would the impulse engines stay online long enough to keep this holoprogram going? Are holoprograms sophisticated enough to last and adjust for the 20 or so years it would take for a Vulcan to reach maturity? What about Ponn Farr? Why would Vulcans be in a LOTR holoprogram? Doesn't sound like their type of "family entertainment".

teacake August 31 2012 03:09 AM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Kid could have wandered in out of curiosity at the wrong time.

As to Pon Farr, well there were probably plenty of Elven ladies. Or Legolas.

Nerys Myk August 31 2012 03:21 AM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
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teacake wrote: (Post 6889364)
Kid could have wandered in out of curiosity at the wrong time.

As to Pon Farr, well there were probably plenty of Elven ladies. Or Legolas.

Not sure holo elves would know what to do in Plak Tow nor would they have the telepathic skills needed to calm it.

teacake August 31 2012 04:20 AM

Re: A Vulcan raised by elves
 
Tuvok's holo-wife didn't exactly have those skills either.

Heck if fightin' can rid you of Pon Farr I'm sure the elves can come up with something.


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