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Captaindemotion August 22 2012 01:39 PM

Disney to Remake/ Reboot The Rocketeer
 
http://www.vulture.com/2012/08/disne...-reloaded.html

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Now that Disney’s troubled movie studio is under new management, our spies tells us that, curiously, one of the first properties to be developed for a feature film is a reboot of 1991’s thirties-set adventure film, The Rocketeer.

We’re told the studio will soon be meeting with various writers to come up with a take.
I don't know about the rest of you but this is one reboot or remake which I would not only be relaxed about but would actively welcome. The original is a fun little under-rated movie but not an out-and-out classic. I would certainly have gone to see a sequel had they made it but the odds of one being made 22 years later are slim in the extreme (Tron Legacy being the exception, not the rule in such cases).

The original is of course based on a comic strip from the early 1980s which owed a debt to the 1930s serial King of the Rocketmen. And there are similarities with the Marvelverse - director Joe Johnston went on to make the similarly pulptastic Captain America, while Howard Hughes, a on whom Tony and Howard Stark were loosely based, appears as the inventor of the rocket pack. Timothy Dalton, who topped many wishlists for casting Tony Stark for a long time, played the bad guy, based on Errol Flynn.

The original Rocketeer has lots of charm and a wonderfully busty Jennifer Connolly but some of Johnston's more ambitious ideas were nixed due to budgetary issues. That hopefully won't be a problem in today's age of CGI.

I've seen some queries raised about whether a man with a rocketpack can really entertain audiences accustomed to the hi-tech equipment of Iron Man or Batman. But then again, a man with a shield and a super serum managed to entertain us quite capably last year!

Stretching it a bit, but with this being a Disney property, could they conceivably link it to the Marvel Cinematic Universe?!

Thoughts, anyone?

Kirkman1987 August 22 2012 01:54 PM

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This is a fantastic idea and a perfect property for Disney. I will be thrilled to see The Rocketeer back on the screen.

Dream August 22 2012 02:30 PM

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The original was perfectly fine, but I guess everything has to be remade these days. Whatever. :lol:

Captaindemotion August 22 2012 03:05 PM

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Dream wrote: (Post 6839852)
The original was perfectly fine, but I guess everything has to be remade these days. Whatever. :lol:

Is it technically a remake or just another adaptation of the comic strip though?

I mean, it came out the year after Tim Burton's Batman and since then we've had a further 6 Batman movies. We've also had a Spider-man trilogy and another origin movie. We've had one Superman movie and another on its way. Etc etc. So it's not like this character is over-exposed.

But yes, the original was definitely perfectly fine. :)

AvBaur August 22 2012 03:25 PM

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I'd rather have a sequel than a remake, but I'll take a good remake/reboot, too.

The original still rocks!

Gaith August 22 2012 03:27 PM

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Well, one obvious step would be to not start off with the boy and the girl in a relationship. The "become a hero while getting the girl" trope is the cinematic norm for good reason.

Also, between The Aviator and the Starks, the whole Howard Hughes thing might be a bit overdone at this point; might be best to come up with a different origin for the jet pack. Emmet Brown, Sr., anyone? :p


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Captaindemotion wrote: (Post 6839648)
Stretching it a bit, but with this being a Disney property, could they conceivably link it to the Marvel Cinematic Universe?!

That could be interesting. A Cap cameo, maybe?


If this were to happen, it'd be nice to make it more international than the Johnston movie.

Balrog August 22 2012 03:38 PM

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The original was a fine movie with a great James Horner score. But it came out in 1990, a dreadful year for Hollywood.

I can see them doing a remake. It's solid material, and comic book movies have traction right now.

Captaindemotion August 22 2012 03:50 PM

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Lloyd Dobler wrote: (Post 6840263)
The original ...came out in 1990, a dreadful year for Hollywood.

Do you mean creatively or financially? That year saw Die Hard 2: Die Harder, Ghost, Total Recall, Back to the Future III, Dances With Wolves, Goodfellas, Reversal of Fortune, Misery, Arachnophobia, Edward Scissorhands, The Grifters, Home Alone, The Hunt For Red October. Internal Affairs, Miller's Crossing, King of New York, Presumed Innocent and others.

I'm sure there were plenty of duds, but the movies I've just listed represent a good mix of commercial and critical successes.

Dream August 22 2012 04:01 PM

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It'll probably be best if Disney lets Marvel Studios handle the remake.

Remember that we got John Carter from Disney and Avengers from Marvel Studios this year. :p

Christopher August 22 2012 04:29 PM

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The Rocketeer was a creator-owned comic book by the late Dave Stevens, not a comic strip. As it happens, IDW Comics has also recently revived The Rocketeer with a couple of anthology miniseries plus an upcoming single-story miniseries.

I haven't read the original comics, but from what I've read about them, they differed from the movie in some significant respects. Cliff's girlfriend in the comics wasn't a wholesome aspiring actress named Jenny, but a pinup/cheesecake model named Betty who was a roman a clef and lookalike for real-life pinup queen Bettie Page. (Ohh, if only we could've seen Jennifer Connelly acting out some of Betty's most memorable scenes from the comics...) And the emphasis of the comic was more on Cliff and Betty's romance (and his discomfort with her nude modeling and her status as a sex symbol for millions) than on the action. It would be nice if a movie remake adapted the Betty character faithfully instead of toning her down as the original did, but given that it's still from Disney, I doubt that will happen.

CorporalCaptain August 22 2012 04:34 PM

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Well, there was a time when The Black Hole, rated PG from Disney, was a big deal.

Icemizer August 22 2012 04:39 PM

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If its still a period piece where he is involved with and battling Nazi's I am all for a reboot of this property. Anything else and I am out.

sojourner August 22 2012 04:48 PM

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I think the fact that this is a licensed property based on the comic book might prevent Disney from setting it in the Marvel Universe.

Christopher August 22 2012 04:51 PM

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CorporalCaptain wrote: (Post 6840527)
Well, there was a time when The Black Hole, rated PG from Disney, was a big deal.

Yes, Disney did attempt to branch out into more adult filmmaking with TBH, Tron, The Devil and Max Devlin, and the like. But their box-office performance was impeded by the conflict between audience expectations for the Disney name and what they were trying to do in those films. So they started releasing their more adult-oriented films (starting with Splash) under a separate label, Touchstone Films (now Touchstone Pictures). If this Rocketeer reboot is under the Disney label rather than Touchstone, that means it'll probably be family-oriented and won't embrace the sexier, more adult side of Stevens's creation. (Although the Pirates of the Caribbean films were PG-13-rated and released under the Disney label, so it's hard to be sure.)


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Icemizer wrote: (Post 6840551)
If its still a period piece where he is involved with and battling Nazi's I am all for a reboot of this property. Anything else and I am out.

Given how thoroughly immersed the premise is in 1930s culture and history, it's hard to see how it could be done any other way.

Captaindemotion August 22 2012 05:02 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 6840512)
The Rocketeer was a creator-owned comic book by the late Dave Stevens, not a comic strip.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_strip

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A comic strip is a sequence of drawings arranged in interrelated panels to display brief humor or form a narrative, often serialized, with text in balloons and captions


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book

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A comic book or comicbook,[1] also called comic paper or comic magazine (often shortened to simply comic or comics) is a magazine made up of "comics" —narrative artwork in the form of separate panels that represent individual scenes, often accompanied by dialog (usually in word balloons, emblematic of the comic book art form) as well as including brief descriptive prose. The first comic book appeared in the United States in 1933, reprinting the earlier newspaper comic strips, which established many of the story-telling devices used in comics. The term "comic book" arose because the first comic books reprinted humor comic strips.
You seriously felt the need to make that correction? Like there's any discernible distinction? :rolleyes:


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